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I had a look at the Keepit site and don't see any claim that they can backup Teams content. Like everyone else, they do SharePoint (OneDrive) and Exchange.

 

We cover all of your user generated Office 365 data within:

  • Exchange Online (mails, calendar, In-Place Archive, etc.)
  • Sites (SharePoint)
  • OneDrive

There's no mention of Planner, Staffhub, Yammer, Sway, etc. either...

 

I'm not blaming Keepit or any other backup vendor for the gaps they have in coverage because Microsoft has to deliver suitable APIs to allow access to the data in the various services used by Teams, Groups, etc. But you should be aware that not all your data is covered by current solutions.

 

Hi Tony,

 

A backup is not a backup until restored as the old saying goes, so...

 

To test I just restored a power point document from a Teams Files section, it came back in a few minutes. I also note that Keepit had a backup of Team conversations. I downloaded it, but could not open it, likely a format that is not on my PC and I did not want to restore it as the team is in use.

 

You are right though the API's from Microsoft needs to be better.

 

KR

Lasse

Absolutely right. A backup is useless unless you can restore content.

 

However, in this case, you restored a file from the SharePoint library owned by the team. I'd expect any of the backup products to be able to do this because they can all deal with SharePoint. The difficulty with Teams is backing up and restoring personal and channel conversations. Some partial recovery of those items is possible from mailboxes (see https://www.petri.com/teams-compliance-story), but not in a useful form. We're waiting for the APIs from Microsoft to make true backup of Teams possible...

using e-Discovery PST Export Tool, you will be able to save backup of your Office 365 mailbox in PST format only. And due to the complexities involved with this method, it cannot be considered feasible for all. You must give a try to Office 365 Backup Tool that not only save Office 365 backup in PST format but into PDF, EML, EMLX, MBOX and MSG. I downloaded the software from Microsoft's official website: https://gallery.technet.microsoft.com/Office-365-Backup-Tool-24174dee

Hey Bella, 

 

I don't think that the Technet Gallery is a good place to provide a Demo Edition of a Software. 

Not sure if this is even allowed. I raised a ticket.

The *.exe is not event trusted / signed.

You guys are very persistent at trying to sell people a product that is not fit for purpose. 

 

Once more with feeling: Do not back up Office 365 data to anything other than a secure environment that guarantees the ability to restore. Do not listen to anyone who says that you can backup Office 365 data to PSTs or any other local file type. All you do is to extract valuable data from a secure repository and move copies of that data into insecure and potentially problematic places. Don't let users use these tools either because it gives them a way to move data outside the control of the company, and you might end up in the situation of the Sony Corp. hack when attackers were able to copy PSTs from user PCs and share their content with the world. Let's eradicate PSTs instead of encouraging their use.

What's happening is that we have a group of people coming into this forum and trying to sell bad software to people who are looking for a solution and are unsure of what they should buy. Thanks for raising a ticket. I hope that these folk are banned from this community...

Received response: "We have unpublished and locked the post."

yeah. seriously. where is the right info amidst all these marketeers.And why is nobody talking about the tool my entire team has been working on? I feel Mail Backup X is popular and handy enough.

It backs up Office 365 so neatly

Because it doesn't seem to be an answer to my question at all? Your tool only back-ups email on a computer?

And it backs up Office 365 to local files (on Macs), which is not what you want to do when faced with mailboxes that might be > 100 GB (and think of this - does this wonderful utility deal with the 100 GB Recoverable Items data that a mailbox can now include?). And I am pretty positive that none of these wonderful "let's dump everything out of Office 365 to local files" products can deal with expandable archive mailboxes...  So, once again, we have another reference to a tool that possibly was useful in an on-premises environment in 2011, but is absolutely not the right answer for backup of cloud-based storage.

If you are concerned about the small business and the enterprise licences, this tool has separate policies: look at their buy now page: http://www.mailbackupx.com/buy-now.html
I think that resolves your concern.

Hi tony,

Mail Backup X supports backup to every possible offline/online location.

I have been using Dropbox. I have tried Google drive as well.

Take the trial for your concerned online storage.

Thanks for paying attention to my reply.

Phil, which document this comparison table was taken from?

Any which way you try and explain Mail Backup X, it is still a flawed product that extracts messages from secure online repositories and puts them into local files. This is OK for personal email, when you can choose to store email wherever you like, but it is absolutely the wrong thing for corporate email in an era when regulations like GDPR are on the horizon. How can any organization attest to compliance with GDPR if it allowed people to use a tool to export email to local storage? It’s inconceivable.
Office 365 looks like a a very helpful tool for the home user as well as business use. My usage has been and will continue to be personal use. I look forward to trying and working with office 365.

Thanks for the reply Tony.

I am not much awared of the GDPR thing. Will let you know after discussing this with the developer unit of this tool.

For my small team of 15, getting all my mails backed up at Dropbox with Mail Backup X seems quite suitable.

You must be one of the few people on the face of the planet who hasn't heard of GDPR by now...

 

See https://www.quadrotech-it.com/ten-things-office-365-tenants-can-do-to-prepare-for-gdpr/ 

Our customers are using the Layer2 Cloud Connector to backup their SharePoint libraries to a local NAS file share or to their own Azure cloud. While it is originally thought for two-way synchronization of pre-selected structured data and files / documents from 100+ IT systems with Office 365, it could also be used for backup (as a one-way sync) driven by flexible PowerShell scripting.

And that's just wonderful to be able to backup SharePoint libraries... But... given that the recent explosion of SharePoint usage within Office 365 is driven by Teams and Office 365 Groups, isn't backing up just one type of data from these unified repositories an imperfect solution? 

 

The point I am making is that solutions like this are based on old-style on-premises thinking and utterly fail to take account of the new world that exists within Office 365. It's great to back up one piece of data, until a problem happens and you discover that all the surrounding context is unavailable because that was not copied along with the backed up data.

Tony,

 

I totally agree regarding the missing context. Tools, such as the Layer2 Cloud Connector or others, will not provide the perfect recovery for a collaboration environment after some disaster. But it could help to meet some (yes, old-fashioned) compliance rules by allowing to physically own the documents as required in some cases. Document synchronization could also help to manage a transition period, where traditional file shares cannot be removed for any reason.

We have been using Barracuda Essentials for a while since it also office Email Archive and a range of email scanning options. 

That being said, we keep getting told by them that there is a delay in backups of new SPO Team Sites that have the Group#0 template due to Microsoft API not being updated yet. Has anyone else been experiencing this issues with new SPO team sites? 

The Group#0 template has been around since November 2014. Sounds like Barracuda isn't doing such a great job at keeping up with Office 365. But how would a template affect their ability to backup documents from a site?

From what their dev team have told me, it is due to the new Team setup with an O365 Group and the template in use. my exact response was the same as you, I don't see why the web template is effecting the backup capabilities but that was the reason I was given.

 

From your experience, is there any application out there that would offer an all in one backup solution to include OD4B, SPO and Exchange online? 

I hesitate to make recommendations, but I have seen large companies use the Spanning backup product for EXO, SPO, and OD4B. AvePoint can handle Office 365 Groups too. Skykick also seems to be popular. No backup product that I know can handle Teams (the chats) or Planner. 

 

My recommendation is to secure a test version of multiple products and try them out in your environment. Don't run a test for 10 users - try 100 to make sure that the product can deal with large volumes of data - and always try to restore data too. Many can copy, but a seamless restore is much more difficult.

Great post, @Tony Redmond! Backup is not even half of the story. You really need to run restore tests on regular basis.

 

Just a note for AvePoint, which now also supports Teams. However, since there's still no API for Planner, this part of a Group/Team cannot be covered. Instead, Project Online, Exchange Public Folders and Dynamics 365 are covered.

 

However, for all readers here: please vote on Microsoft user voice to implement (API) support for Microsoft planner (https://office365.uservoice.com/). Please also share other needed features there. Microsoft seems to have doubts users really want to backup and restore planner content. I found one interesting request for that: https://office365.uservoice.com/forums/289138-office-365-security-compliance/suggestions/16988467-pl...

 can get more information about Kernel office 365 Backup & Restore software from here: https://www.experts-exchange.com/articles/31546/Two-ways-to-backup-Office-365-mailboxes-to-Outlook-P...

I would like to recommend Kernel Office 365 Backup & Restore software to backup Office 365 data and save them in PST formats.

Yet another attempt by people who would like to persuade Office 365 tenants to export/backup data to PSTs to hoodwink their intended victims. I admire your persistence, but backing up to PSTs is a bad, bad, bad, idea except in specific circumstances (like eDiscovery export to give data to external investigators).

Finally we were going into the right direction again, because @Tony Redmond made again clear, exporting Exchange is NOT an office 365 backup!!! However, unfortunately @shiv Gupta did not make her homework and don't understand the business requirements of real companies in times of security and GDPR.

 

Again, don't get trick by people, who name their Exchange export engines Office 365 backups! Office 365 is an entire suite of several products, where you can store content. It's not only Exchange! Ideally your solution should cover at least most of it (SharePoint, OD4B, Groups, Teams, Exchange). Tony mentioned some example solutions, which can do this. Also, PST is not an reliable backup format, especially in times of data security.

 

Please also refer to Analyst houses Gartner and/or Forrester for further details. Especially to all, who want to recommend an Exchange export engine again: Please do your homework!

Well, thank you for your marketing text on behalf of Veeam...

 

Seriously, posting stuff like this in a technical community is pretty worthless. If you have real-life experience of running this technology in a production environment, then it would be good to hear of those experiences... but to go through a bland recital of Veeam PR (including references to "on-premise") doesn't create a convincing case.

Thanks, Tony, I've removed their post as it violates our guidelines.

Hi Everyone,

Wondering if anyone found a solution to backup Office 365 Team data (talking about the files and folder data stored on SharePoint). Lot of these Office 365 Cloud solution say the do, we test and nope only SharePoint Site collections but not the Team data. Anyone?

It's quite the way we have to back this data right now - Use OneDrive Sync  to locked Windows 10 system and do a backup to an Azure Storage via Backup software

Cheers

The files and folder data for the Files section of a team are held in a SharePoint site collection. Therefore, any backup product that can process a site collection should be able to process the information belonging to a team. Certainly the leading backup vendors for SharePoint all can. And if someone doesn't know that Teams uses site collections, you shouldn't be talking to that vendor.

Tony, you are absolute wrong. Check your permissions and you will see that there are different. And believe me - I tested several of those Cloud Backup provides - skykick, itcloud and others an NOBODY can as of now backup Team Data sites. If you check your Teamsites will NOT show in your Site collection under Share Point Administrator. We have quite some clients and I would say being close to 30 years in this industry I ensure and confirm information I post. So check it out - You will NOT backup the data from Teamsites just because the back end is SharePoint

cheers

No, they are site collections. If you look in the new version of the SharePoint Admin Center, you'll see that all of the site collections created by Office 365 Groups and Teams are there. Right now, I'm looking at > 200 of them...

 

The history is that the old SharePoint Admin Center didn't expose these collections because they were hidden, but they have been available to access for quite a while. AvePoint has a backup module for Office 365 Groups that can process these site collections quite nicely (I wrote about this feature in March 2017 - see https://www.petri.com/avepoint-backup-office-365-groups - also see https://www.avepoint.com/blog/office-365/backup-office-365-groups/). I believe Metalogix has too, but I could be wrong (https://www.metalogix.com/help/Essentials/WebHelp/creating-an-office-365-group-b.html indicates that they do). I believe Spanning can handle these site collections too.

 

And as to 30+ years in the industry and checking before saying something... Well, everyone can be wrong. I am frequently. But when I publish something, I do take care to collect facts first. If I didn't, I don't think I could have published as much as I have done over the last 35+ years...

Hi @P H,

 

@Tony Redmondis actually right. Each Group and Team has an own site collection to store the files. However, not all cloud backup solutions understand this! Hence, you did right and tested it to make sure, there're no surprises.

 

Sure, I'm working for AvePoint, but as an MVP I'm an independent consultant, too. Veeam, Skykick or Backify are cloud backup solutions, which should provide Groups backup. However, for my current information, right now only AvePoint really supports backup + restore for Groups and since May also Teams (including Chat). I don't say, this is the best solution, I just want to say, try it out yourself and compare. :)

I don't consider backups to be a necessity for Office 365, but ISVs continue to offer these products and customers continue to buy, so I chatted with Spanning to find out what's happening in the Office 365 market, who's using cloud backups, and why. We also spoke about the challenges that backup vendors continue to have in coping with some of the unique aspects of Office 365.
https://www.petri.com/spanning-office-365-backups

Tony, why you do not consider backup as a necessity for O365? Microsoft provides good SLAs for infrastructure underlying O365. But if a user accidentally deletes a message in his Outlook - Microsoft might help you to restore it any time during next 48 hours. And if you need it now - you're out of luck.

Or even worse - if a rogue IT person decides to delete e-mails in few mailboxes.

 

Disclaimer: I work for Acronis (data protection company).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Fair question.

 

Use retention policies to make sure that information is retained for a reasonable period, so if someone "loses" a message, you can always recover it. This protects against rogue admins too.

 

For SharePoint, put a classification label on important documents that has a retention period. People won't be able to delete the document because the label is there. And if they remove the label, then this is a pretty explicit deletion  and they better understand what they are doing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hi Tony,

I tell my wife all the time that this one thread that I subscribed to a long time ago is better entertainment than a soap opera (no insult intended in that statement).
I thought I would share my experience with the need for having backups specifically for SharePoint online (of which I currently don't have yet). A few months ago I encountered a few excel files accessed in co-authoring mode that became corrupt. I don't think they were really corrupt, but I could not open the file from the excel web client or the desktop excel client (and the error "We found a problem with some content in 'file.xlsx' Do you want us to recover as much information as we can?") . After trying to recover the file through the error prompt and having nothing but a blank spreadsheet open , I thought to myself - no biggie, I will just go back to the revisions and restore the last one. In each case (have had 3 files so far in the last 3 months) I attempted to open the prior revision only to find out that it too was corrupt. I ended up having to go back 5 or 6 revisions to find a version of the file that opened successfully. I think I narrowed it down as to what caused it (column filtering in the desktop version sorted one way while another user was sorting it a different way all the while with autosave saving the file), but it didn't stop the autosave from saving successfully or kick the users out of the file. It did prevent anyone new user from being able to open the file. One of these files was open for 4 days while the user locked their pc, so we lost 4 days worth of information.
I didn't think there was any reason to have an independent backup of the data as the revisions were robust, but I proved myself wrong. I am now in the market (more so when I subscribed to the thread) for backup software for Office 365 and am waiting for the Veeam offering that is supposed to be out soon? (End of Q2 2018).

Thanks,

Brian

Thank you @Oleg Melnikov

 

Clients should simply be aware of Microsoft capabilities and really re-think their cloud backup strategy. Just relying on "Microsoft is doing the backup" will fail. Microsoft is responsible for the Service. However, the client is responsible for their data. If your mentioned scenarios are not need from a client, fine. But if companies want to protect against this, they cannot do with native tools.

 

Additionally, @Tony Redmond, what if a Office Add-In or any other service is accessing data and while doing the data get's corrupt. Your retention policy will not work.

 

In general, Retention policies need to be applied manually to each object or automatically with a rule, which match all documents. Do you know there is the same keyword in all you files to use it this way? Also, whenever you create and apply a retention label, you will never ever be able to change or delete it. Is this the flexibility we need in current dynamic times? Same for classification… This only applies for documents, but what about an entire column and the metadata stored in there? What about entire libraries, Sites, Groups, Teams, when the IT Admin deletes all of them by purpose? Sure, rare scenarios, but companies should be aware of them and think themselves, if they want to protect against this or not.

 

And Tony, you actually already answered yourself: when a user removes the label and deletes an item by purpose, then it's his fault. RIGHT! But how can a company protect against this scenario?" Additionally, "...and they better understand what they are doing" How many companies have you seen, where all employees totally understand their IT and know what they are doing?

 

 

Let us know, how we can get you ;) We are not talking about specific solutions. We just talk about the considerations of certain scenarios and options to solve them. If companies have evaluated this and still are fine with what you've mentioned - great. If companies identify gaps in their SLAs with native capabilities, why do you want to ignore them?

Re. retention.

 

Simple. Just put all important mailboxes on hold. Either a time-limited or litigation hold. No add-on or any other process can remove content from a mailbox that is on hold. 

 

Auto-label policies can find and assign classification labels to documents based on keyword searches or if the document contains sensitive data types like credit card numbers. This is all basic Office 365 functionality.

 

Look, the FUD thrown out by backup companies talks a lot about rogue admins. I've got to say that in my 40 years in IT, I have never encountered such an admin. Yes, they do exist, and they do horrible things for unknown reasons, but they are not as common as the FUD makes out. And if Teams, Groups, etc. are deleted by an admin, they are soft-deleted and can be recovered within 30 days. Again, basic Office 365 functionality.

 

As to someone removing a label, they have to be a site owner to do that....

Hey @Tony Redmond,

 

you don't get my (our) point. Everybody knows (or should know) about the basic functionality. Our point is, companies should be totally aware of these capabilities and of course really use them. However, these are still basic functions, which work in your test tenant, but not for all productive company environments. Please respect this and do not ignore the thousands of companies out there, which need more than basic functionality for their intellectual property - their data!

 

Exchange:

In-Place Hold (copy-on-write) DEPRECATED!

-> Keep emails based on a query, as long as Search is not deleted, all new email matching criteria will go into this hold

Litigation Hold

-> Like In-Place hold, but for entire mailbox, without query (except for some filters)

 

What if Admin changes query or removes litigation?

 

SharePoint/OneDrive classification

- based on fixed keywords or one or a mixture of 82 pre-configured sensitive types

- make sure, these keywords or sensitives types will cover all content, even that, what will be created in the future?

- allow user to overwrite rules or not?

- Retention labels/policies cannot be changed after creation

- not possible to retain entire site collections or Groups/Teams

 

Soft Delete of Groups

- what if somebody realizes the deleted Group after 30 days?

- what if Admin uses this: Remove-AzureADMSDeletedDirectoryObject –Id <objectId> and permanently delete Group immediately?

 

Again, for many companies the basic functionalities are fine and that is great! Many others really need additional features.

 

… and for the rogue administrators (and all the other scenarios): Why do you have a car insurance? Because you plan to have an accident? Or because you just would like to be protected, but you hope you never need it?

 

My recommendation for everybody:

  1. Re-think your cloud backup strategy -> define your organization's SLA's and B&R scenarios, you need to cover
  2. Check, if native capabilities meet your SLA's
    a) if yes, go to #4
    b) yes with few acceptable limitations, go to #4, but note down limitations and make your colleagues aware of this
    c) no, go to #3
  3. Check 3rd party vendors in the market, if they can satisfy your SLA gaps
  4. Monitor your backups and perform different restore scenarios on regular basis to make sure everything is working

In-place holds aren't deprecated for Exchange. Instead, the in-place holds that are set by Exchange eDiscovery have been replaced by in-place holds set by Office 365 eDiscovery cases.

 

Litigation hold (equivalent to an in-place hold without a query) also remains intact and available.

 

Re. queries for auto-label policies - KQL is pretty extensive when it comes to finding documents. If you really want to lock down documents, then make them records and they can't be deleted by anyone (even Microsoft).

 

Re. soft-delete and realizing that groups have been deleted. I think that if they are important groups. their loss will be detected quickly. It's also very easy to script a check for deleted groups with PowerShell by querying either Azure Active Directory or the Office 365 audit log. I explain how in a Petri.com article. 

 

You keep on saying that an Admin could something. Yes, they could. But if they do, then consequences will flow. Admins can remove holds, permanently delete groups, and do all manner of things, and these actions are audited.  You can make the same argument for third-party software as well - someone has to have authority over the software and be able to change data.  I accept the argument that insurance is good, but insurance is often over-sold too.

For clarity on Holds:
https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/SharePoint/SharePoint-and-Exchange-Online-eDiscovery-Transiti...

 

Difficult to argue, when you just repeat your points or find excuses for valid company scenarios. Your audits are funny. Congratulation to your audit logs, when a hacker deleted important documents with a stolen account. And please do not start with ATA, ATP, MFA, Conditional Access, etc. Yes, Yes, Yes, we all know about that. However, this is still not the point. The audit log will not get your data back.

 

Just to summarize:

You recommend native functionality, that was never build for backup & restore scenarios, hence, you're recommending workarounds. At the same time you complain about "workarounds" from 3rd party vendors, who use official Microsoft APIs for additional B&R scenarios, because these APIs are no dedicated Backup-APIs ("...lack of a suitable backup API for most of the Office 365 data sources"). At least I find this interesting...

 

I respect your opinion. You're still not a fan of additional backup solutions. You still don't really see the need for it. And you are critical with the solutions, which are out there in the market. I'm fine with that!

 

Other contributors and I also shared our points. I'd leave this now to the reader to build their own opinion (and re-think their cloud backup strategy).


@Robert Mulsow wrote:

For clarity on Holds:
https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/SharePoint/SharePoint-and-Exchange-Online-eDiscovery-Transiti...

 

TR; That article confirms the move away from workload-dependent processing of holds to Office 365-wide holds imposed through eDiscovery cases. However, Exchange in-place holds are still valid (you can still impose them) as they have to remain in place for as long as a customer's retention needs exist. The point is that you can put mailboxes and SharePoint/OneDrive content on hold if you need to retain content, and you can do so with a single policy. It's part of the drive to have a unified view of data governance across Office 365 (see https://www.petri.com/office-365-data-governance).

 

Difficult to argue, when you just repeat your points or find excuses for valid company scenarios.

 

TR: I could equally argue that you continually point to rogue admins as the justification for backups. I'm not finding excuses. What I am doing is pointing out that a great deal of functionality is built into Office 365 that tenants sometimes overlook because they simply don't know it exists. I have also attended a couple of recent sessions where presenters talked about scenarios as if no solutions exist, leading people along the line that the only possible solution is their software.

 

To me, it seems like four issues need to be reviewed.

 

1. User error.

2. Administrator error.

3. Rogue administrator.

4. Attack (malware, cyber ransom, etc.)

 

User error (someone deletes a message or document in error) can usually be taken care of with functions built into clients or Office 365, such as Recover Deleted Documents, by an admin with the recent cmdlets (https://www.petri.com/recovering-deleted-email-exchange-online) or with a content search if the mailbox is on hold. The same for deleted documents if they are not in the recycle bin - documents on hold can be recovered by an admin by a content search because they are in the site's Preservation Hold Library. Loss of metadata or some other element of a SharePoint library is harder to recover, so that might be a reason to use backup software. On the other hand, the investment might be better made in user education so as to avoid accidents.

 

Administrators can screw up and lose data. In some cases, like recovering an account or group removed in error, the error is recoverable. In others, it might not be. Backup software can help, but only if it copies the data that the administrator removes.

 

Rogue administrators can cause chaotic damage. However, as noted before, I am unsure as to how many incidents of this kind actually happen. Good HR and management processes, including auditing of admin actions and restriction of admin permissions so that people only have elevated rights for a defined period help to solve this problem. I note that Office 365 is in a preview of privileged access management https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/Security-Privacy-and-Compliance/Announcing-preview-of-privile... that will bring customers some of the same capabilities Microsoft uses to restrict access to its administrators in the Office 365 datacenters. The feature will be available for Exchange Online first and then other workloads.

 

Malware can corrupt documents and messages and a backup can help. However, the need is somewhat reduced through the introduction of features like OneDrive restore (coming to SharePoint too, or so the rumour goes).

 

Perhaps the biggest advantage of backup software is the ability to restore data belonging to many users in an automated manner. While users can restore deleted messages or their OneDrive library, it's a manual process. Possible but painful when you have hundreds of users affected.

 

Your audits are funny. Congratulation to your audit logs, when a hacker deleted important documents with a stolen account.

 

TR: Audits are only part of the solution.

 

And please do not start with ATA, ATP, MFA, Conditional Access, etc. Yes, Yes, Yes, we all know about that. However, this is still not the point. The audit log will not get your data back.

 

TR: No, but it will tell you what happened and who did what. And that information is often necessary to prosecute offenders. But you are right to point out to the range of features available in Azure and Office 365 to limit the ability of attackers to penetrate a tenant to access and steal data.

 

Just to summarize:

You recommend native functionality, that was never build for backup & restore scenarios,

 

TR: No, I recommend that tenants understand the full breadth of the functionality built into Office 365 and understand how to use that functionality to meet their data governance needs.

 

hence, you're recommending workarounds. At the same time you complain about "workarounds" from 3rd party vendors, who use official Microsoft APIs for additional B&R scenarios, because these APIs are no dedicated Backup-APIs ("...lack of a suitable backup API for most of the Office 365 data sources"). At least I find this interesting...

 

TR: I have commented that a lack of backup APIs restrict ISVs from being able to copy data from some Office 365 workloads like Teams and Planner, absolutely. I also have pointed out that some APIs in use for backups (like Exchange Web Services) were never designed for the purpose. Without APIs designed to handle the transfer of large quantities of data from Office 365 to another cloud datacenter, there will always be compromises.

 

I respect your opinion. You're still not a fan of additional backup solutions. You still don't really see the need for it. And you are critical with the solutions, which are out there in the market. I'm fine with that!

 

TR: I am glad that I made your day.

 

Other contributors and I also shared our points. I'd leave this now to the reader to build their own opinion (and re-think their cloud backup strategy).

 

TR: Certainly. But don't expect me to stay silent about the state of backup software for Office 365 and to prompt customers to understand the features of the software they have already bought. That just isn't the right thing to do, so I won't be doing it.


 

It's only a pitty they don't backup the Archive boxes :(

We are looking for a backup solution for O365, that cab backup to a local storage (NAS or SAN) and have the restore capabilities. I have been talking to many vendors and everyone seems to have a solution for cloud to cloud backup. can someone tell me is this even possible??

 

I looked at Synology today they have active backup office 365. Do anyone know about it, Please throw some light on it.

 

(we have 700+ users active on O365, and a very active SPO sites.)

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