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I just want to secure AI. DLP vs Info Protection vs DSPM vs Governance vs...
I'm with an MSP, and I've avoided Purview like the plague, because it seems to be suffering from the same 'made by marketing teams' 'strategy' the 365 documentation is. However, it's my understanding Purview policies are needed for Data control of Copilot. Here's my issue: all of these different 'solutions' sound like the exact same thing, but are pitched as if they are something different. i'm going to post a couple of descriptions for these 'solutions' to illustrate this. 'discover, label, and protect sensitive and business-critical info' 'make sure your organization can identify, monitor, and protect sensitive info across the expanding Microsoft 365 landscape' 'discover and secure all your sensitive data across Microsoft 365 and non-365 data sources' 'Discover, label, and protect sensitive and business-critical info across your multicloud data estate.' I genuinely do not have time to figure out what each of these 'solutions' are, then figure out their policies, then their giant library of settings (below)... It's not even clear to me what's active NOW, considering we never licensed Purview - but somehow have been roped into it. It SEEMS like these are all variations of marketing terms, which all point to 3-4 actual technical implementations in obscure ways. Can someone advise on the ACTUAL technical policies we want to target and enable? Or just give some clarity? I've never felt so overwhelmed or disconnected from Microsoft's environment. We just want to secure our tenant's AI usage.
Separating IRM Full Control from Excel Worksheet Protection
We've developed several excel workbooks that leverage VBA macros with workbook structure and worksheet password protections to maintain standards. The VBA macros unlock workbook/sheet protections to perform tasks and relock on completion. Our executive management has tasked us to protect the workbooks to prevent unauthorized access so we have applied a sensitivity label to restrict access to an AD group (Project Managers). However, short of granting Full Control, the IRM prevents the macros from removing sheet/book protections. We have tried to allow permissions for OBJMODEL and DOCEDIT already at Copilot's recommendation but this was unsuccessful. We don't want to grant full control because users are then able to remove the document label. Any suggestions for how to grant workbook/sheet protection permission without allowing users to remove labels? At this time the best we've come up with is to grant the full access but require an explanation for a label downgrade with an alert to the admin/document owner.
Endpoint DLP Device Onboarding - WorkspaceOne
Hi everyone, We have a customer who is using WorkspaceOne for managing the Endpoints. It is an Hybrid environment. We need some guidance and documentation(if any), to help onboard devices for Purview eDLP. The ruled-out option is Group Policy as some employees are working from home and some working from office. There are around 25k+ devices in the tenant that needs to be onboarded. The customer is not using Intune or SCCM. We are looking for best method/approach to onboard devices where the org is using WorkspaceOne.Data System Wide Lineage via API Request
I'm struggling with finding a solution. My goal is to identify all existing lineage relationships for any data objects within a specific data system they belong to. I've been using the Purview REST API (Datamap Dataplane) but I haven't found an endpoint returning data system side lineage/relationships. For my scenario I have a Databricks metastore and need to know the existing lineage relationships of those data objects within Purview so I can purge them out when we are doing our scheduled lineage refresh.
eDiscovery search: Sites not available when adding a Group data source
Hi, I am attempting to use Purview eDiscovery to search a SharePoint site associated with a Group. When adding the Data Source, I search for the URL of the SharePoint site, and the Group is returned. However, after selecting the group and clicking Manage, it indicates Sites are "Not Available". What causes this, and how do fix it? My user is a member of the "eDiscovery Manager" role group as an "eDiscovery Administrator", and licensed with "Microsoft 365 E3" and "Microsoft Purview Suite". It is also an Owner of the target Group / SP Site.
DLP Policy - DSPM Block sensitive info from AI sites
Having issues with this DLP policy not being triggered to block specific SITs from being pasted into ChatGPT, Google Gemine, etc. Spent several hours troubleshooting this issue on Windows 11 VM running in Parallels Desktop. Testing was done in Edge. Troubleshooting\testing done: Built Endpoint DLP policy scoped to Devices and confirmed device is onboarded/visible in Activity Explorer. Created/edited DLP rule to remove sensitivity label dependency and use SIT-based conditions (Credit Card, ABA, SSN, etc.). Set Paste to supported browsers = Block and Upload to restricted cloud service domains = Block in the same rule. Configured Sensitive service domain restrictions and tested priority/order (moved policy/rule to top). Created Sensitive service domain group for AI sites; corrected entries to hostname + prefix wildcard a format (e.g., chatgpt.com + *.chatgpt.com) after wildcard/URL-format constraints were discovered. Validated Target domain = chatgpt.com in Activity Explorer for paste events. Tested multiple SIT payloads (credit card numbers with/without context) and confirmed detection occurs. Confirmed paste events consistently show: Policy = Default Policy, Rule = JIT Fallback Allow Rule, Other matches = 0, Enforcement = Allow (meaning configured rules are not matching the PastedToBrowser activity). Verified Upload enforcement works: “DLP rule matched” events show Block for file upload to ChatGPT/LLM site group—proves domain scoping and endpoint enforcement works for upload. Disabled JIT and retested; paste events still fall back to JIT Fallback Allow Rule with JIT triggered = false. Verified Defender platform prerequisites: AMServiceVersion (Antimalware Client) = 4.18.26020.6 (meets/exceeds requirements).Get-AdaptiveScopeMembers doesn't show the SiteURL for OneDrive
I am working through reporting for Adaptive Scopes and Adaptive Retention policies. I'm so close. But I discovered a problem with my script in that when people return to the company after their account has been deleted, they get a new OneDrive URL. This is expected. While they can have the same email address as an inactive mailbox, they cannot have the same OneDrive URL as an inactive URL. Since we keep all data for a minimum of 7 years, it is possible for a UPN to be the "owner" of 2 or more OneDrive URLs (one active and the others are from previous accounts). I have no easy way of seeing which OneDrive URL is active short of looking for digits at the end of the URL and taking the highest digit. But, what I want to know, is why isn't it here? Why doesn't "Get-AdaptiveScopeMember" return the SiteURL for the user? I thought maybe it was because my test user didn't have a OneDrive site when the account was added to the scope, so I added my actual user account to the scope and it shows the same thing. Is SiteURL only for SharePoint sites and not OneDrive sites? This makes no sense. Does it just take more time to show up? what's the time frame on that?
Purview not getting enough attention from Microsoft - Will be Decom
At this stage is clear for everybody that Microsoft is not putting the same effort in Purview as they are putting in other products like Fabric, D365 , etc.. Seems to me that in one or two years purview will probably be decommisioned Rational : - The support is very week (teams taking care of the support tickets are very week from a knowhow perspective and take ages to resolve something ) - Functionalities take a lot of time to be released - Its not properly integrated with Fabric, for example there is almost no lineage and the classification is not set via data map - DLP for Fabric only works with some SITs, does not work for example with Trainable Classifiers, etc.. - The Roadmap takes care of something, but minimal - The Way to Log Error records for data quality rules is very week and not user friendly I wonder what is the idea of Microsoft for the next 3 or 4 years when it comes to Purview Will it continue to have Governance ? will it only be taking care of security or compliance?
Purview Data Map scanning Microsoft Fabric and no classifications applied or scan rule sets
Microsoft Purview cannot currently apply built-in or custom classifications (including sensitive information types) to metadata discovered from Microsoft Fabric workspace scans. While Purview can register Fabric workspaces and extract structural metadata (workspaces, Lakehouses, Warehouses, tables, columns, and limited lineage), classification rules are not executed against Fabric assets in the same way they are for supported sources such as Azure SQL, ADLS Gen2, or on-prem databases. This results in classification gaps across a core enterprise analytics platform. Why This Is a Significant Service Omission 1. Breaks the Core Value Proposition of Purview 2. Undermines Regulatory and Risk Management Controls 3. Creates an Inconsistent Governance Experience 4. Blocks Downstream Purview Capabilities 5. Forces Anti-Patterns and Workarounds The lack of automated classification support for Microsoft Fabric workspace data represents a material service omission in Microsoft Purview, significantly limiting its effectiveness as a unified data governance platform and introducing avoidable compliance, operational, and assurance risks—particularly in regulated environments. Are there plans to improve this and if so what are the timescales?Microsoft Purview to detect passwords
Hi All What would you recommend for scanning and setting up scheduled scans in Microsoft Purview to detect passwords or sensitive credentials stored in SharePoint sites and OneDrive? We would like to discover whether anyone has shared or stored passwords in SharePoint or OneDrive, as we have already had an incident because of this. Are there any recommended Purview solutions, policies, or detection rules we should use for this? Ideally, we would like to schedule regular scans and receive alerts or reports when potential passwords, credentials, or secrets are detected. Any advice or recommended approach would be appreciated. thanks thanks Miro
