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EricBBDO
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Re: Now in public preview: Future of wiki and Notes in Teams
I have successfully made arguments to multiple groups inside my 60,000 person company expressing how MS's flippant anti-design decisions like this severely affect us and break our workflows. I'm very hopeful for ending this relationship with MS so we can use tools designed for our use cases.Re: Now in public preview: Future of wiki and Notes in Teams
I have a solution to keep your team's content organized. You need to first rename each channel, then duplicate each channel manually then delete the old channels, this allow you the opportunity to add the tabs one at a time in the correct order since it's impossible to edit the order of these. By rebuilding all aspects of your team and deleting the old channels only then can you retain the organization of your team. YOU MUST CHOOSE IF ORGANIZATION - or - EXISTING COMMENTS are more important... MS simply does not allow you to retain the organization of the tabs and port the content from Wiki to OneNote with your current team. Obviously they did not design this or consider the ramifications of this dumb decision.Re: OWA does not offer online meetings automatically..
Pro tip: if you want notifications for all meetings, not just Teams meetings, use Power Automate to hack Outlook into duplicating all events and force all events to be Teams meetings. Sure it's confusing but MS 365 is confusing and severely lacking on features, but this will send you notifications so you don't look like an idiot failing to attend client meetings because they use Zoom or Google Meet since Teams refuses to help you be organized.490Views0likes0CommentsRe: Now in public preview: Future of wiki and Notes in Teams
Bouke, MS doesn't design products. The shoot from the hip and then react from product feedback. It's the most offensive and convoluted way to design a product and once you understand this lack of design IS their design methodology, this it makes a lot of sense why their tools are so clunky, difficult and frustrating.Re: Teams - disable meeting notifications
I just miss client meetings because there's no way to GET notifications for non-teams meetings. Not because it's impossible, it's actually really easy to implement with the same machine learning iOS and Android do, it's just either lazy programming or MS attempting to force us to use Teams.19KViews0likes0CommentsRe: Can Copilot send Teams notifications?
Calendar is also in Teams so that's why I mention it. It's redundant, they have different UIs, and sometimes different functionality -- obviously MS isn't a design-first institution if the left hand has no idea what the right hand is doing. It should be it's own app so we can look at a calendar and chat and email at the same time, but again lack of design gets MS into these bizarre workflows. I'm not going to use PA because it's too confusing and has never worked for anything I've tried. It's sort of like trying to communicate visually in Teams, a complete waste of time. Anything with a code window will be easier and also has proper debugging. When you can't get the value of an Excel field with PA that you just updated with PA and there's no way to debug except go to one-of-seven 365 forums and get scolded because none are for PA, then it's simply not possible to use PA. (Oh and the issue for that was you need to manually save the excel file, PA is unable to refresh a file that it has already opened.) I have no idea how CoPilot works, I'm just desperate to get basic 2023 functionality out of Teams, which I understand is impossible. it should be super easy to implement meetings that are content-aware and know when something is formatted like a meeting. Even without modern ML, junk folders works quite well similarly. Even Mail in iOS has a bunch of ML under the hood, this is basic functionality anymore. It's obviously MS not wanting us to book meetings outside their ecosystem.1.4KViews0likes0CommentsCan Copilot send Teams notifications?
It seems the Teams dev team wants us to only get notifications for Teams meetings and they don't care if I miss all client meetings with Zoom or Google Meet links for bizarre and nefarious reasons. So to work around this egregious lack of basic functionality I want to create a duplicate meeting for all meetings with Zoom or Google Meet links and some basic ML should do the trick. Not sure why this isn't how it works now, but I need to fix my own version of Teams and this seems like the best way to do it. (Years of feedback hub stagnation suggests that's not the best solution). Can someone help me get access and describe how to do this? I'm on a Mac so PowerAutomate isn't an option, plus I've never gotten PA to work even with Excel or Word because MS seems to have poor cache management and never actually knows when files are updated so sequences never trigger.1.8KViews0likes5CommentsRe: Can Copilot send Teams notifications?
I can never find the right place to ask in MS ecosystem -- there's like 7 forums for 365 and I can't tell where 365 apps begin and end (calendar for instance). I know it's super easy to parse text with machine learning tools. Should be super easy to just look at the text in a meeting using ML to determine if there's other meeting URLs in the meeting. That's why I'm looking at Copilot. I'm pretty technical so writing a script in Python to get Teams to function would be fantastic, should be very easy to implement so I'm hoping Copilot can do this. Power Automate is way too confusing, not designed for people with my skill set and isn't really supported on a Mac anyway. I'll also try to fix Teams with Apple Automator before I stab my brain with Power Automate, what a horrid tool.1.6KViews0likes3CommentsPlans to design Teams for visual communication?
Are there any plans to add basic visual communication functionality to Teams? I work for a 60,000-person agency whose product is literally visual communication and oddly our corporate decided we should use MS 365 and we struggle all the time because we can't effectively communicate visually internally. Since we can't choose tools that best suit us and MS is taking our money, I think it should be possible to convince MS to hire some designers and develop a better product. I'm unsure MS is even aware of how bad Teams is at visual communication. Feedback hub requests to be able to see stuff never get filled and bugs on Mac OS persist for years. We're really struggling daily and it's affecting employee retention.Re: Now in public preview: Future of wiki and Notes in Teams
Is this tool to move Wiki pages to OneNote still in active development? It appears the parsing script fails to recognize Wiki formatting and the best option is to manually rebuild each page individually. Where can we find updates on this parsing tool? I'm going to wait until MS fixes the bug before I lose two weeks of work due to MS's complete incompetence and negligence here. What a productivity tool!Re: Now in public preview: Future of wiki and Notes in Teams
Jan_Steberl It's so sad that a platform this wildly bad at presenting information and mostly incapable of visual communication is getting rid of the only tool that can structure content. You'd think they'd be offering more tools, better tools and maybe even hiring designers to make the platform better (ok that's a stretch for MS) but this is downright offensive. Notes is a very different product and is not designed to present content to other people. As limited and frustrating as Wiki is, it's still way better at presenting information than any other tool in Teams. I hate Wiki, but removing it and not offering to replace it with a similar tool built for education or documentation contexts is so wildly irresponsible and alienating only MS would be bold enough to break their clients workflows so carelessly and abruptly. It's mind-boggling that MS is so anti-design.
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