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VIEW ALL PARTICIPANTS IN VIDEO MEETING
We have 8 people on a daily video meeting in Teams.
Default setup gives 3 or 4 video screens and then rest only appear as small icons in the bottom corner. We need it so all 8 can be seen with the member speaking being a larger window and the others still visible in video, but in smaller tiles. (similar to how it looks in Zoom)
Is it possible to reconfigure settings?
Right, lots in this thread to unpack.
1. The 4 video view will work in the desktop app on Windows, Mac, Linux or the mobile app on Apple or Android. It is not possible in the browser. I don't believe this is likely to change in any useful time period.
2. The 9 video view is in development, and Microsoft have heard loud and clear from MVPs that it's important. As far as I know it won't be here during April.
3. The view you see will always be the students that talked most recently. If you keep your students muted and unmute to speak it shouldn't be confusing to work out who is speaking.
4. As the teacher you can select any of the students in your meeting to view their video by clicking on the ... next to their name in the list of attendees and selecting pin, once you have finished unpin to get back to active speakers.
4. Your school districts are probably wise to not permit the use of Zoom, they have a responsibility to not allow your student data to be accessed by third parties or several other risks. Look up zoom bombing if you think it'll be fine, or when zoom were sending data to Facebook without permission, or when hackers worked out how to access private meetings.
5. Teams has very good controls to allow you to keep order during a meeting, controlling who can speak, present etc. It's harder to achieve this in Zoom. Tips in my video attached.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKdlyf_KDCg
Hi,
Currently it is 4 video streams maximum. There is a new view coming that will allow 3x3 (totally nine video streams). Unclear when this new feature will be released.
- R_WeebersCopper Contributor
LinusCansby We use MS Teams to communicate with a whole classroom now, and I can't imagine this will disappear post-epidemic. What features are in the making to facilitate 32 students and a teacher?
- Patrick1066Copper Contributor
Zoom is much better for teaching and teams of more than 4 people. MS TEAMS is a collaboration tool not a teaching tool.
Students love Teams because they know that the teacher can only see 4 videos, so in a class of 30 students the other 26 can go to sleep and you won't know they're sleeping.
- Lin-linCopper ContributorFinally a Brady Bunch config!
- khendricksonCopper ContributorHollywood Squares!
- M_SAN04Brass Contributor
thanks LinusCansby ..... that's helpful to know.
Also found a picture of it for you...
- Kotus-TechIron Contributor
M_SAN04What a terrible limitation! We too are rapidly losing entire departments to Zoom even when we tell them that we will not support the software. Microsoft are swiftly losing their competitive edge with this feature!
- TugsimIron Contributor
Kotus-Tech We're very much in the same boat. I've got entire departments (c. 40,000 users total, given the COVID-19 WFH scenario) going back to WebEx and saying that there's no point in them moving to Teams as a result of being restricted to a 4-person video view. How can a tool as old as WebEx (to say nothing of Zoom) still be kicking Microsoft's tail in the usability and features stakes?
- Andre_LeBlancBrass Contributor
- Kotus-TechIron Contributor
@Dan Holme and @Mark Kashman perhaps you could shed some light on this feature?
- James MaddisonIron Contributor
M_SAN04 any news on this? I have dozens of angry User's gathering with their pitchforks and firebrands screaming for us to ditch Teams and use Zoom. For the love of all that is holy Microsoft, please can you fast-track this feature so I can work on other things.
- CamTheKiwiCopper Contributor
M_SAN04 Also very keen on this, especially with the working from home because of covid-19
- M_SAN04Brass Contributor
CamTheKiwi I know, I hope they make one of the next improvements to go live as it is definitely needed now more than ever!
- Joe_FogartyBrass Contributor
This is so immensely frustrating. I'm a teacher, and we've been having wonderful class sessions with my 26 kids via Zoom. I can see all of them, I can respond to their facial expressions and reactions. I can call on their raised hand without them needing to hit the digital 'raise hand' key (and I don't have to 'lower their hand' afterwards). It's better for teaching, management, and community. The 4-person limitation - or even the 9-person limitation - will be a big step backwards. Unfortunately, our district is saying that Zoom is not an approved app and we have to use Teams. PLEASE address this issue ASAP. I can't believe that with all of the brainpower and money that Microsoft has, they can't figure out how to give me the same level of functionality as Zoom.
Right, lots in this thread to unpack.
1. The 4 video view will work in the desktop app on Windows, Mac, Linux or the mobile app on Apple or Android. It is not possible in the browser. I don't believe this is likely to change in any useful time period.
2. The 9 video view is in development, and Microsoft have heard loud and clear from MVPs that it's important. As far as I know it won't be here during April.
3. The view you see will always be the students that talked most recently. If you keep your students muted and unmute to speak it shouldn't be confusing to work out who is speaking.
4. As the teacher you can select any of the students in your meeting to view their video by clicking on the ... next to their name in the list of attendees and selecting pin, once you have finished unpin to get back to active speakers.
4. Your school districts are probably wise to not permit the use of Zoom, they have a responsibility to not allow your student data to be accessed by third parties or several other risks. Look up zoom bombing if you think it'll be fine, or when zoom were sending data to Facebook without permission, or when hackers worked out how to access private meetings.
5. Teams has very good controls to allow you to keep order during a meeting, controlling who can speak, present etc. It's harder to achieve this in Zoom. Tips in my video attached.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKdlyf_KDCg
- alitaqviIron ContributorWell explained. Teams is huge collaboration tool whereas zoom you can compare with webex or bluejeans.
- Mulder00Copper ContributorThis is something major for me which is missing in Teams at the moment. With larger audiences, it becomes really difficult to facilitate if you can only see four people at a time. Nine will improve things, but it would be great to be able to see most people. Visual feedback is much quicker to get and much more engaging than asking a question and getting no response and not being clear on whether that is due to lack of understanding, inability to find the mute button or just lack of engagement.
- Edineen2020Brass Contributor
Mulder00 it’s pretty critical for us as an organisation at the moment, all of the hard work we have put in to persuading people to,utilise 365 to its extent are being flushed away as zoom has the one functionality that they all want
- Jeff_WilliamsCopper Contributor
M_SAN04 Hello, I wish this was a feature that was working now, for even more people then just 9, I don't know about many people here, However due to the Pandemic this function is now a must, as well as more control restrictions for members joining the calls.( Little more in the style of Zoom, Or Webex) under Classroom team feature.
We have major schools, for students and staff alike screaming out now for this update to be rushed forward to now.
A lot of schools require this now!... please Microsoft... do something about it.
- Looks like Microsoft is speeding up the release of this feature due the recent number of votes on the uservoice request.
https://twitter.com/Microsoft365Pro/status/1244855001962500096?s=19
https://microsoftteams.uservoice.com/forums/555103-public/suggestions/17010055-show-video-for-all-people-in-video-meeting
- Wes_at_DSSCopper Contributor
I too would like to see the real estate on my 27 inch monitor better leveraged w/ teams. Why not offer a large centered window for the speaker, surrounded by participants in smaller video views. The surrounding participant count could be sized based on the number of attendees (even if they are sitting in a 1in by 1in square).
- TooTallTravisCopper Contributor
M_SAN04 following, we have a staff of 18 and I have also seen the mention of this 3x3 for a year. Hoping to see that and more. Really hoping for more zoom like function.
- TechyMillerCopper ContributorNot true...I have someone who has tried both platforms and still only one person.
- AzurdenCopper Contributor
TechyMiller Zoom will do by default 1, Gallery View is all in Zoom.