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The i7-7700K meet the minimun requierments to run Win11. But its not suported, Why?
Hi, I have an i7-7700K. This CPU have TPM 2.0, It's compatible with Secure Boot, it have 4 core up to 4.2 GHz. It also is 64bit.
I don't know why this CPU is not supported by Microsoft to install Windows 11.
Update, 10/18/2021: Yesterday I bought a MacBook Air, I know that the MacBook isn't the best computer and that you are limited within the horizon of Apple. But I don't trust Microsoft and the new Windows 11. What if I bough another computer of 2.000 US dollars and in some years Microsoft decided that I need a new computer? At least, with the new M1 chip of Apple I know that they will support the hardware and the will send me Updates and give Support.
What about this work-around?
The easy way to install Windows 11 on unsupported CPUs - The Verge
I haven't tried it because I just learned today about this W11 unsupported issue and I am tired of dealing with Windows.
the thing is that they decided that they were not going to service all computers forever… a cpu life is supposed to be 3 years… then they could have offered 300$ for another service plan but few would pay it and it might not make sense …
- Understand. My I7-7700 is more robust than my wife's I5 laptop, which is supported. I purchased the I7 with the idea that it will last longer than three years for my needs. I'm keeping all four of my systems on W10 because past disparate versions of Windows did not play well together on the network. Eventually, I will do a work around W11 upgrade on the I7, if I still own it.
I have four W10 devices on a network. Three are W11 compatible. The fourth is an I7-7700 that is the most capable of the four devices. I am not switching to W11 until all four devices can be upgraded. The same operating system is essential so that users can go seamlessly from machine to machine. This reduces the potential for errors. If I am eventually forced to switch, that will be the signal to try the Apple M2. I have never been an Apple fan. But, Microsoft's appeal has declined to Apple levels.
- lol check the full specs it also depends apon your ram
- Ok just to state again- the i7700 is easily able for win11. MS say the crash rate is 1 and a half times higher then their other “approved” processors. Which sounds bad until you look at the <actual> stats. “Approved” processors crash-free experience 99.8% of the time. In other words a 0.2% crash rate. So 1 and a half times that is 0.3%, meaning a 99.7% crash-free experience… (being the i7700). In essence, MS have arbitrarily decided 99.8% crash free is fine, and “supported”, whereas the i7700’s 99.7% crash free is unacceptable and won’t be supported. Can anyone tell MS how many people they are arbitrarily excluding by dissing the i7700??
the999wizard think of all those people with sparc processors who have terabytes of data and relied on the world’s best operating system:Solaris built and maintained by Bill Joy from Stanford University’s Solaris system sudden having the plug pulled by Oracle. What are these people going to do? Doesn’t seem like Microsoft has a solution for these poor folk with powerful 12 core Sparc processors… that beat most 48 core processors…
ps. I would say that i7 likely rivals IBM’s Power 10 quad core processor and don’t be fooled that it’s similar to an i3 11th or 12th generation because that’s supposedly quad core as well but it’s more like dual core in actuality…
- Same issue here. Sorry to say, but with Apple you don't run into this kind of stuff. The Corei7-7700k is a fairly recent and high-end processor. And if stability is Microsoft's concern, then they really shouldn't be pointing fingers to the CPU...
I really wanted to like the MacBook Air but returned it immediately after I discovered that offline content from Netflix, and Prime Video are not supported, however Apple TV content is. If Microsoft wants to dictate on the supported CPU's for it's operating systems I'm not going to sweat it.
- There's no +1000000000 likes button available. This CPU is perfectly capable, why is it not included in the WIN11 compatibility list?
Here we are, June 14th 2022, and Microsoft is still ignoring 15 pages worth of complaints just so they can force us to buy new hardware. Most of the processors on the "supported" list are lower spec than the 7700K, but microsoft going to microsoft.
- If it makes you feel better I have a laptop that is not on Microsoft’s supported list for any Os yet it came with Windows 10 preinstalled. Pentium n3540 . https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/82105/intel-pentium-processor-n3540-2m-cache-up-to-2-66-ghz.html
- I've been running Fedora (Started on F31, already on F36) on my Aurora R6 box with the i7-7700k and it's a dream. Honestly, does anybody really need Windows these days, or Mac OSX for that matter? I will admit that I keep a Windows partition because my VR headset doesn't work with Linux and HL: Alyx is a great game, but for everything else, I reboot back into Fedora. My Thinkpad P1 with an i9-9900 also works a treat with Linux, fingerprint reader and all. The desktop OS is dead, long live the desktop...
You're kidding, right? Most applications will only run on Windows. You're on a MICROSOFT WINDOWS 11 forum. This is definitely not the right place to try and push your favorite flavor of *nix.
And before you bring up Windows emulation on Linux, just think about that for a second. You can't break the dependency of needing Windows, yet it's made to say you don't need Windows...
SugarD-xNo, not kidding. I think you misunderstood my purpose and the thread's. This thread is about NO Windows 11 for i7-7700K which is why I wrote my piece. I certainly do not want to upset the Windows 11 conversation but... the i7-7700k was upset by Windows 11. And so was I, hence my participation. 280+ comments on this thread are precisely about anger, anxiety and frustration at this situation, but if you have a Microsoft supported solution for *our* situation I am all ears!
And relax - I was done with virtualising or emulating Windows about 4 years ago (not withstanding the use of Proton in Steam!) In my defence, I got given HL: Alyx as a birthday present, with a loaner HP VR headset, so my Windows needs will end there, but since I had to repartition and dual-boot/install Windows 10 (see... couldn't do 11, right?) I thought I would take a look at Windows 11, and couldn't, so I found this thread to meet with kindred souls.Luckily, Windows 10 works a charm.
I find it hard to believe that your vr headset does not work with fedora. https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Half-Life-Alyx-Now-Linux-Vulkan
Not sure what headset you had but the real problem with fedora and the reason people don’t like it is that they are not involved in the science of data collection, tracking and helping to direct the lives of its users as Microsoft windows is. Linux does not attend the World Economic Forum nor do they focus themselves on adhering to their goals. When you install Fedora you don’t get a lovely reminder to get vaccinated, or do black friday shopping, or have Tik Tok preinstalled ready to go and for most people this is the main thing. There is no better feeling then this and plus if you do something a little bit different you could run into issues like not having the same microsoft teams account as everyone else. If you want to go with the flock you need windows and it’s really about losing social status if you don’t.
Whether it’s microsoft checking the validity of your microsoft status before letting you access your documents on your or putting them on their cloud to make sure it adheres to Davos’s principles, Microsoft has you covered.
https://youtu.be/NA0Fphx4UMg
Microsoft Is committed to protecting their users from the next pandemic , Fedora is not.https://youtu.be/cNo-wJbDV1U And you are right that microsoft is into the meta verse as you can see they are pioneer in applying new technologies for the public good and they are Shwaaabs favorite…
- Well, guess I am going have to byte the bullet and just make the upgrade without Microsoft's approval. I was really hoping they would do the right thing and put this processor on their list.
- If im not mistaken, they decided not to support 7700k due to a like 40% crash rate with win11, im pretty sure thats more due to people clocking high and not testing for stability. On nearly overclocking forum and resource ive seen, people clock real high and post big numbers, but noone talks about stability testing. I myselt ran my 7700k at 5ghz for at least 2 years before i ever started looking at stability, and found that even tho i could make windows 10 run at 5ghz it wasnt efficient. It wasnt till i dialed back to 4.8ghz that i saw my stability settle in testing
Most people with a 7700k are shooting for more than 5ghz tho, and they arnt aware of how unstable they are running on the daily unless they were to actually test for it. And i doubt microsoft wants to bother with trying to explain all this to people that overclock, especially of its an issue affecting over 40% of 7700k users.SunOneElse Hi just reading the comments at the start of this thread, <there isnt a 40% crash rate for i7700>; its circa 50% higher than the processors which are green-lighted by MS for win11- which sounds terrible <except> the green lighted ones have a crash-free rating of 99.8% (0.2% crash) which means the i7700 has a 50% higher crash rate of 0.3%- or <the i7700 processor has a 99.7% crash free experience>. which makes the lack of MS support for all of our i7700 processors which are well capable, all the more mean and shows a disregard for customers who previously would have rated MS products (like me!)
the999wizard the reason for the high crash rate is probably because of all of us wannabe system builders messing up hardware configurations.
- Yes I agree.
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all of that said, it makes me question the potential for stability in W11 anyway and makes me wonder if i should ever WANT to upgrade even if i update to a new mobo and CPU.
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