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Dev channel update to 80.0.361.5 is live
Hello insiders, today we’re releasing build 80.0.361.5 to the Dev channel! This is the final build for major version 80, which means it’s also our next Beta channel candidate. This is also the final Dev channel update for the year; we don’t expect to publish anything more until January. However, we couldn’t leave you without some holiday treats, so here are all of the feature rollouts that have been recently completed for the Canary and Dev channels.
First, we’ve officially opened up the new Edge Extension Store for submissions! You can read more about the process for submitting to the store in this blog post: https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2019/12/16/get-started-extensions-addons-microsoft-edge-chromium.
Next, for the web developers, we’ve published an example application on our GitHub page that serves as a comprehensive API demonstration of our new WebView2 control. You can read more about how to use it in this blog post: https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2019/12/11/webview2-interactive-api-sample.
For our ARM enthusiasts, we’re bringing our native ARM64 builds to the Dev channel today! These builds have been in Canary for the last few weeks, and we’ve ironed out most of the major issues during that time. There’s still one known issue though: certain DRM video on some websites doesn’t play properly.
If you didn’t see it last week, we made a short post here about some of our work on the Mac touch bar: https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/Articles/Try-the-revamped-Touch-Bar-experience-on-Microsoft-Edge-on-Mac/m-p/1061372.
Finally, we’ve got three features to look for in upcoming builds.
- One of them is what we’re calling the “pinning wizard”. It will occasionally pop up from your Task Bar and suggest top websites from your history to pin directly to the Task Bar as installed websites. It can also be used at any time from … > More tools.
- For users of high contrast themes in Windows, Edge now supports high contrast themes as well! It will follow the theme you’ve chosen in the OS Settings and brings us back to parity with the support offered in Edge Legacy.
- And for users of Immersive Reader (formerly known as Reading View), we’ve greatly expanded the number of color themes you can choose from. Many of these are specially designed to reduce eye strain and increase reading comprehension.
Before we get on with the rest of the features and additions that are worth mentioning this week, you should know that favorites sync is still disabled for the majority of users. This includes brand new machines you install Edge on, so if you’re setting up Edge for the first time and want access to your favorites, you’ll need to manually export your favorites to a file on a different machine and import them on the new one. We’re also working on a deduplication mechanism once favorites sync is re-enabled, which should prevent new duplicates from coming in as well as remove duplicates for users who have already had their favorites duplicated.
Added features:
- Added support for Dolby Vision playback.
- Enabled users of Windows Mixed Reality to view 360° videos on VR headsets.
Improved reliability:
- Fixed a crash when opening certain PDFs.
- Fixed an issue where clicking on the Feedback button crashes the browser.
- Fixed a browser crash for users of Collections.
- Fixed a crash when closing the browser.
- Fixed an issue where typing passwords into password fields sometimes causes a tab crash.
- Fixed a crash when playing the Surf game.
- Fixed an issue where certain websites don’t load properly.
- Fixed an issue where Netflix playback fails for certain videos with error D7381.
Changed behavior:
- By request, favorites folders are now yellow.
- Updated Adobe Flash to version 32.0.0.303.
- Fixed an issue where PDFs that fail to save for some reason end up failing silently instead of showing an error to the user.
- Fixed an issue where the font dropdown in Settings doesn’t work.
- Fixed an issue where the search engine can’t be edited because the Save button doesn’t work.
- Fixed an issue where the current display language can be removed from Edge even though it shouldn’t be.
- Fixed an issue where Edge installations on Azure Active Directory domain-joined machines get signed into the wrong account on first run.
- Fixed an issue where some webpages aren’t able to be translated, and instead show an error saying that the source language and target language are the same.
- Fixed an issue where Learn More links clicked during the First Run Experience open in tabs hidden behind the FRE instead of in a dialog above it.
- Fixed an issue where navigation to certain websites in IE mode sometimes fails.
- Fixed an issue where adding an item to a Collection sometimes doesn’t load the image properly and instead shows the loading spinner forever.
- Fixed an issue where pasting items from one Collection into another doesn’t paste them in the correct order.
- Fixed an issue where dragging and dropping an image into a Collection sometimes results in the wrong link being saved.
- Fixed an issue where feedback screenshots sometimes don’t work properly on Mac.
- Fixed an issue where the keyboard shortcut for saving a PDF doesn’t work on Mac.
- Fixed an issue where desktop notifications are broken on Windows Insider builds.
- Fixed an issue where Edge sometimes fails to automatically update on Windows Insider builds.
- Fixed an issue where uninstalling and reinstalling Edge sometimes results in it no longer being able to launch on Windows Insider builds.
Known issues:
- Navigation in new tabs sometimes fails, either showing an error that the connection is closed, or crashing the tab. In some cases, subsequent navigations in the tab are okay.
- After an initial fix for it recently, some users are still experiencing Edge windows becoming all black. UI popups like menus are not affected, and opening the Browser Task Manager (keyboard shortcut is shift+esc) and killing the GPU process fixes it.
- Highlighting text in the address bar then clicking on webpages sometimes causes black-on-dark text when the browser is in Dark Theme.
- The Settings page appears too big/zoomed in on certain machines.
- Some users are still not seeing Collections being enabled by default on Canary and Dev. For users who want to try Collections, enabling the flag at edge://flags/#edge-collections should still work to turn on the feature.
- There are some issues where users with multiple audio output devices sometimes don’t get any sound from Edge. In one case, Edge becomes muted in the Windows Volume Mixer and unmuting it fixes it. In another, restarting the browser fixes it.
- At certain zoom levels, there is a noticeable line between the browser UI and the web contents.
- Jumplist entries are not consistent between the Start Menu and the Task Bar for some users. We believe this is due to the shortcut on the Start Menu not getting migrated properly after an Edge update and are working on a fix. Additionally, after getting the update for the new icon, there are still places on the Start Menu, for example when searching, that still show the old icon. Other places like the Task Bar may be able to be fixed by un-pinning and then re-pinning any Edge shortcuts that already exist there.
Thank you for a great 2019 and for all of your help building both this community and the new Edge. We couldn’t have done it without you!
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I like the yellow folders too. Reminds me of French Vanilla ice cream.
What I don't like is "Imported from Microsoft Edge". It should be streamlined and flow smoothly together.
That's great news.
Just one important thing concerning the virtual keyboard/SIP not comming up bug. This bug has been finally fixed in the newer Chromium Engine releases.
So could the team PLEASE update Dev to Chromium Engine 80.0.3987.19 and Canary to 81.0.3999.0 before leaving for the holidays, so all of us tablet and touch-screen users can use Edge Chromium again.
Thanks and Happy Holidays
- It would be nice to know if you plan, or not to implement the google doc offline feature (which doesn't work on edge).
josh_bodner
Josh, please, check your PMs.
Cheers,
Drew- Again like i explained earlier
https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/Discussions/Dev-channel-update-to-80-0-361-5-is-live/m-p/1072672/highlight/true#M19518
if people open a forum thread asking for something doesn't mean so many people or even majority of people want it to happen.
people only post here when there is a problem, not to praise something that is already working fine.
so even if you see 50 people asking for a feature, there might be 100 times more people that like the current design and don't want it to change but you don't see them because there is no reason for them to post here one by one praising the gray folder colors.
in this topic alone, there are many people who DISLIKE the yellow folders.
yellow folders = google chrome copy
Edge classic's yellow folders are irrelevant here, it has a totally different UI, not even comparable to the new Edge. (Transparent UI, Pitch black background, clear texts and more)Consistancy in the Microsoft plattform is both relevant and important.
And that standard is and has been different tones of yellow for at least 20 years.
When Chrome was released in 2008 - Microsoft had yellow folders for about 10 years already so it's Chrome that is a IE copy in that matter.
josh_bodner
"Cannot please everyone, everywhere, all the time"
"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder"
It is almost comical reading comments about yellow folders. The same yellow folders we have & have had all over the place forever. The same ones that heaps of people were asking for in Edge C because they didn't like or want the new plain outlines. So the Edge Team gives what (many/most) people wanted and, yet, now we hear, "don't like that give 'US' back outlines"; and who is us? ONE cannot speak for individuals world-wide. Can never please all, never will.
When it comes to building a browser (or an OS, for that matter) it is being built for & used by billions of people. To be reasonable & practical it cannot be built with billions of options. It has to be done for the majority, for the general consensus. It is for Global application not, individual. Ergo, it is not realistic that every individual idea or desire or suggested tweak can be added or indulged.
Cheers,
Drew- Spoiler
Drew1903 wrote:
"Cannot please everyone, everywhere, all the time"
"Beauty is in the eye of the beholder"
It is almost comical reading comments about yellow folders. The same yellow folders we have & have had all over the place forever. The same ones that heaps of people were asking for in Edge C because they didn't like or want the new plain outlines. So the Edge Team gives what (many/most) people wanted and, yet, now we hear, "don't like that give 'US' back outlines"; and who is us? ONE cannot speak for individuals world-wide. Can never please all, never will.
When it comes to building a browser (or an OS, for that matter) it is being built for & used by billions of people. To be reasonable & practical it cannot be built with billions of options. It has to be done for the majority, for the general consensus. It is for Global application not, individual. Ergo, it is not realistic that every individual idea or desire or suggested tweak can be added or indulged.One person or two started a thread, asked for yellow folders and some people might have commented under them too and that's it, developers thought Everyone want the same but that's Not true.
you see, if something is good and desirable, no one write about it on the forum to praise it because it's pointless. so if 80% of people preferred the gray folder icons, they just kept using and enjoyed it, didn't need to come here and write they are enjoying it.
this is why there needed to be a poll, Not a forum post, to see what people wanted.
It's not comical.
HotCakeX https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Ftechcommunity.microsoft.com%2Ft5%2Fuser%2Fviewprofilepage%2Fuser-id%2F309365&data=02%7C01%7C%7C0b9f39584b2f4b1f797808d783cc5ebb%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637122786086780427&sdata=scO6vScynX2eE9j9H9S21hDX5Wsj61DbioQ4X34WMhc%3D&reserved=0 Those yellow folders are just horrible, bad gradient-pixelated- the list goes on and on, they are out of touch with the UI, sorry.
josh_bodner Eek please get rid of the yellow folder icons -- it looked much better the way it was before. Or at least give us an option to flip it back. Thanks.
- josh_bodner
Some feedback:
1) Pinning Wizard: "It will occasionally pop up from your Task Bar and suggest...", I sure hope 'occasionally' can be changed to 'never ever' . If I want something pinned, I will do so manually rather than be nagged about it.
2) Why on earth are the favorites still hidden away under "Other favorites" while favorite bar entries get front seat? It should be the other way around. The favorite bar entries already have a prime spot; the favorite bar. To illustrate this point, here's my current workaround to avoid having to navigate to an unnecessary submenu: I enable the favorite bar and access the favorites by clicking the 'Other favorites' button there instead of clicking the favorites button in the toolbar. They are more readily available via the favorite bar, than via the favorites menu. That's backwards.- Spoiler
Why on earth are the favorites still hidden away under "Other favorites" while favorite bar entries get front seat? It should be the other way around. The favorite bar entries already have a prime spot; the favorite bar. To illustrate this point, here's my current workaround to avoid having to navigate to an unnecessary submenu: I enable the favorite bar and access the favorites by clicking the 'Other favorites' button there instead of clicking the favorites button in the toolbar. They are more readily available via the favorite bar, than via the favorites menu. That's backwards.
I think this will fix your issue,
- Go to: edge://favorites/
- from the left side select "other favorites"
- Press CTRL + A to select them all
- now drag and drop them to the Favorites bar, right below the mini search bar on top left
- after that, use drag and drop to bring your most important favorites at top and re-order everything however you like.
- Doing this will Remove "Other favorites" from the favorites toolbar so there will be no confusion either.
Suggestion/idea:
Have options to set colours or even icons (e.g. briefcase, book, lightbulb) for individual folders, with an additional default option (somewhere in the bookmarks manager).
Individualised icons might help for people like me who have about 10 folders in their bookmarks bar (relating to work, studies, interests, hobbies, side projects, reading). That is all I use my favourites bar for, and I'm sure there are others that do the same.
Conceptual ideal case:The browser could change icons automatically -- say, if I have a folder called "work" on the favourites bar, it could change the icon to a briefcase. The next time I open my updated browser it would say "Look, we changed the icons on your favourite folders. Would you like to keep them this way?"
- I'm sorry, but I love the yellow icons. Old ones were harder to identify since they were only outlines, and I like them also because they're more coherent to the whole Microsoft UI rules (folders are yellow not only in legacy Edge, but also in File Explorer). And I disagree about the resemblance with Chrome, because it uses a different folder icon, despite being both yellow
SOI_7 josh_bodner HotCakeX Isn't this discussion about whether folders should be yellow, outlined, or customisable shades a wider question about the overall look and feel of Microsoft products as a whole? Is Windows 10 Fluent Design the go-to standard, are there different standards across other products such as Microsoft Office and Azure? Or is Chromium Edge something different?
Generally speaking Xbox is Green and Windows 10 is blue - but for Chromium Edge to work across all platforms, what should it look like? It's awesome logo is green and blue - what should the folders look like?
There was a lot of work done recently between versions 1903 and 1909 of Windows 10 to change the File Explorer folder icon's shade of yellow so that it was visible on dark or light themes. This attention to detail should be given to the folders in Chromium Edge too, but I do hope custom options will be available too, and the application of a group policy is a great idea too.
Perhaps a business would like to folders to match their branding, or there may be some LGBTQI people would like rainbow folders if that's even possible?
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Isn't this discussion about whether folders should be yellow, outlined, or customisable shades a wider question about the overall look and feel of Microsoft products as a whole? Is Windows 10 Fluent Design the go-to standard, are there different standards across other products such as Microsoft Office and Azure? Or is Chromium Edge something different?Graham-STMC I think part of the problem is that what constitutes "Fluent" continues to change (perhaps "evolve" would be a more gracious way of putting it). For example, the Acrylic transparency that was such a hit with some of Edge Legacy's users was a specific implementation of a broader idea, not the exact specification to be followed pixel-for-pixel by successors: https://medium.com/microsoft-design/evolving-the-microsoft-fluent-design-system-9b37fb890c82. I feel like the implication here is that we should be trying to integrate all of Microsoft's products to be more cohesive-feeling, and it's a sentiment that I absolutely agree with.
- There is nothing to be sorry about.
it's obvious that 50% like the yellow and 50% like the original gray ones.
so what Microsoft should do is to give us OPTIONS. gray, yellow, pink, purple and a few bunch of other colors. that's the best thing that can happen.
SOI_7 wrote:
I'm sorry, but I love the yellow icons. Old ones were harder to identify since they were only outlines, and I like them also because they're more coherent to the whole Microsoft UI rules (folders are yellow not only in legacy Edge, but also in File Explorer). And I disagree about the resemblance with Chrome, because it uses a different folder icon, despite being both yellowSorry but honestly I don't know what is there to "identify". It's a favorites bar, it contains favorites and favorites folders, we already know what's in there.
Specially if you organize your favorites in multiple folders like I do, I do NOT need 20 repetitive colorful icons to "identify" they are folders every time I need to use the favorites. Since they are repetitive, they should be more subtle to avoid becoming visual pollution in the browser window like they are now. If it was a single element, it would not be a huge issue to be yellow, but that's not the case with a list of the same elements that can grow pretty big. In design, less is usually more! The content should be the focus, not the interface.
Yeah. the icons are not exactly like chrome, but it's the same in the sense that it looks outdated/not in sync with a modern design, specially dark mode on top of standing out too much.
In my examples bellow, the second option is way cleaner and less intrusive, and I have no issues identifying they are folders. I respect if people have personal preferences, but I don't think "identifying" the icons is an issue to justify this change.
Please do NOT use the UGLY yellow folder icon
It's really ugly.
OR
let us set custom colors/icon for folder icon
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Edge's new icon
Edge's old icon
Which is better??
poyi Hong wrote:Please do NOT use the UGLY yellow folder icon
It's really ugly.
OR
let us set custom colors/icon for folder icon
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Edge's new icon
Edge's old icon
Which is better??
Totally agree.
Microsoft made a good design for the favorites folder icon and then threw that away and copied google chrome. users didn't want yellow folders, we want to be able to set custom colors for the folders in the favorites. including the default gray color, yellow and many more colors.
