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SOI_7 josh_bodner HotCakeX Isn't this discussion about whether folders should be yellow, outlined, or customisable shades a wider question about the overall look and feel of Microsoft products as a whole? Is Windows 10 Fluent Design the go-to standard, are there different standards across other products such as Microsoft Office and Azure? Or is Chromium Edge something different?
Generally speaking Xbox is Green and Windows 10 is blue - but for Chromium Edge to work across all platforms, what should it look like? It's awesome logo is green and blue - what should the folders look like?
There was a lot of work done recently between versions 1903 and 1909 of Windows 10 to change the File Explorer folder icon's shade of yellow so that it was visible on dark or light themes. This attention to detail should be given to the folders in Chromium Edge too, but I do hope custom options will be available too, and the application of a group policy is a great idea too.
Perhaps a business would like to folders to match their branding, or there may be some LGBTQI people would like rainbow folders if that's even possible? ![]()
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- josh_bodnerJan 03, 2020Former Employee
Isn't this discussion about whether folders should be yellow, outlined, or customisable shades a wider question about the overall look and feel of Microsoft products as a whole? Is Windows 10 Fluent Design the go-to standard, are there different standards across other products such as Microsoft Office and Azure? Or is Chromium Edge something different?Graham-STMC I think part of the problem is that what constitutes "Fluent" continues to change (perhaps "evolve" would be a more gracious way of putting it). For example, the Acrylic transparency that was such a hit with some of Edge Legacy's users was a specific implementation of a broader idea, not the exact specification to be followed pixel-for-pixel by successors: https://medium.com/microsoft-design/evolving-the-microsoft-fluent-design-system-9b37fb890c82. I feel like the implication here is that we should be trying to integrate all of Microsoft's products to be more cohesive-feeling, and it's a sentiment that I absolutely agree with.
- Graham-STMCJan 03, 2020Iron Contributor
josh_bodner So many comment that the Android ecosystem is so fragmented, personally I think Microsoft has a great opportunity, perhaps starting with Edge, to provide something special that makes its products and services stand out or even shine, with one standard. There are many great design elements in all of them from Office through Skype and here with Edge. I realise there is perhaps a history of different departments fighting but perhaps under the current leadership, and the great innovations such as the forums for Insiders, a focus should be possible.
To me the transparent tiles of Windows Phone 8.1 were amazing - but the overall look was spoilt by the odd brand that needed a specific look. Perhaps it is an impossible task in today's need for recognition but there should be some commonality.
- HotCakeXJan 04, 2020MVPI'm glad that Microsoft launcher exists on Android so i can have the same look and feel, even the location of app shortcuts, when I change my phone.
- Henry08Jan 03, 2020Iron Contributor
The biggest problem with Fluent Design on the current day - it isn't something determined at least for the public. The first apps on win10 had acrylic transparency, strict angles for fields and buttons, and bevel highlighting, current "Fluent Design" doesn't have them at all and apps after recent updates lost these distinctive features. So we can't speak about any consistency especially with archaic win 8 file explorer as an example of future proof planning which got on win10 only not so good dark theme and updated search.
Other problem, yellow folders aren't something that community frequently ask. We asked for Acryl, for good dark theme which doesn't flash with white when form still loading content end etc. So looks like this was someone internal desition, we didn't see any poll confirms this. Obviously Edgium was designed as monochromic, and IMHO a good manner to change something without conferring is to give the user a choice. Yellow as default, monochrome as optional it isn't something special or harmful for the product. Everyone knows that more than 80% of users always use the default setting anyway.
- HotCakeXJan 03, 2020MVPThis is so true, Acrylic theme was among the first things asked and it's more important IMO.
I'm currently using Firefox ver 72 ad the bookmarks look the same way as Edge 79, gray nice colors. no more ugly yellow folder colors. - SpeednetJan 03, 2020Brass Contributor
Henry08 Sorry, that's completely false. As someone who has requested getting rid of the horrible gray folder icons since the very beginning (and restoration of proper consistent yellow color folders) I have seen hundreds of similar comments from my meager forum and web browsing on the topic. Just because you personally don't like the consistent yellow color doesn't mean that you represent the majority opinion.
- HotCakeXJan 03, 2020MVPThis sounds nice! all of it 🙂
- SOI_7Jan 03, 2020Iron ContributorSadly Microsoft has never been good when it comes to UI consistency, all their products have their own design language despite the Fluent Design guidelines