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SOI_7 josh_bodner HotCakeX Isn't this discussion about whether folders should be yellow, outlined, or customisable shades a wider question about the overall look and feel of Microsoft products as a whole? Is Windows 10 Fluent Design the go-to standard, are there different standards across other products such as Microsoft Office and Azure? Or is Chromium Edge something different?
Generally speaking Xbox is Green and Windows 10 is blue - but for Chromium Edge to work across all platforms, what should it look like? It's awesome logo is green and blue - what should the folders look like?
There was a lot of work done recently between versions 1903 and 1909 of Windows 10 to change the File Explorer folder icon's shade of yellow so that it was visible on dark or light themes. This attention to detail should be given to the folders in Chromium Edge too, but I do hope custom options will be available too, and the application of a group policy is a great idea too.
Perhaps a business would like to folders to match their branding, or there may be some LGBTQI people would like rainbow folders if that's even possible?
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Isn't this discussion about whether folders should be yellow, outlined, or customisable shades a wider question about the overall look and feel of Microsoft products as a whole? Is Windows 10 Fluent Design the go-to standard, are there different standards across other products such as Microsoft Office and Azure? Or is Chromium Edge something different?Graham-STMC I think part of the problem is that what constitutes "Fluent" continues to change (perhaps "evolve" would be a more gracious way of putting it). For example, the Acrylic transparency that was such a hit with some of Edge Legacy's users was a specific implementation of a broader idea, not the exact specification to be followed pixel-for-pixel by successors: https://medium.com/microsoft-design/evolving-the-microsoft-fluent-design-system-9b37fb890c82. I feel like the implication here is that we should be trying to integrate all of Microsoft's products to be more cohesive-feeling, and it's a sentiment that I absolutely agree with.
josh_bodner So many comment that the Android ecosystem is so fragmented, personally I think Microsoft has a great opportunity, perhaps starting with Edge, to provide something special that makes its products and services stand out or even shine, with one standard. There are many great design elements in all of them from Office through Skype and here with Edge. I realise there is perhaps a history of different departments fighting but perhaps under the current leadership, and the great innovations such as the forums for Insiders, a focus should be possible.
To me the transparent tiles of Windows Phone 8.1 were amazing - but the overall look was spoilt by the odd brand that needed a specific look. Perhaps it is an impossible task in today's need for recognition but there should be some commonality.
The biggest problem with Fluent Design on the current day - it isn't something determined at least for the public. The first apps on win10 had acrylic transparency, strict angles for fields and buttons, and bevel highlighting, current "Fluent Design" doesn't have them at all and apps after recent updates lost these distinctive features. So we can't speak about any consistency especially with archaic win 8 file explorer as an example of future proof planning which got on win10 only not so good dark theme and updated search.
Other problem, yellow folders aren't something that community frequently ask. We asked for Acryl, for good dark theme which doesn't flash with white when form still loading content end etc. So looks like this was someone internal desition, we didn't see any poll confirms this. Obviously Edgium was designed as monochromic, and IMHO a good manner to change something without conferring is to give the user a choice. Yellow as default, monochrome as optional it isn't something special or harmful for the product. Everyone knows that more than 80% of users always use the default setting anyway.
- This is so true, Acrylic theme was among the first things asked and it's more important IMO.
I'm currently using Firefox ver 72 ad the bookmarks look the same way as Edge 79, gray nice colors. no more ugly yellow folder colors.
- This sounds nice! all of it 🙂
- There is nothing to be sorry about.
it's obvious that 50% like the yellow and 50% like the original gray ones.
so what Microsoft should do is to give us OPTIONS. gray, yellow, pink, purple and a few bunch of other colors. that's the best thing that can happen.HotCakeX
Maybe having the folders follow the system accent color could be a neat addition. I actually miss this aspect of UWPs, the usage of the accent color in many areas of the app
SOI_7 wrote:HotCakeX
Maybe having the folders follow the system accent color could be a neat addition. I actually miss this aspect of UWPs, the usage of the accent color in many areas of the appIt's interesting but I still prefer to be able to set different colors for each folder in the favorites menu. it shouldn't be hard at all.
right now the Edge's title bar follow's Windows accent color and it's annoying me.
for example i want my taskbar and start menu and rest of the apps and Win32 programs get the accent color but Not Edge browser, because not all colors are suitable for texts that appear up there on the tabs.
SOI_7 wrote:
I'm sorry, but I love the yellow icons. Old ones were harder to identify since they were only outlines, and I like them also because they're more coherent to the whole Microsoft UI rules (folders are yellow not only in legacy Edge, but also in File Explorer). And I disagree about the resemblance with Chrome, because it uses a different folder icon, despite being both yellowSorry but honestly I don't know what is there to "identify". It's a favorites bar, it contains favorites and favorites folders, we already know what's in there.
Specially if you organize your favorites in multiple folders like I do, I do NOT need 20 repetitive colorful icons to "identify" they are folders every time I need to use the favorites. Since they are repetitive, they should be more subtle to avoid becoming visual pollution in the browser window like they are now. If it was a single element, it would not be a huge issue to be yellow, but that's not the case with a list of the same elements that can grow pretty big. In design, less is usually more! The content should be the focus, not the interface.
Yeah. the icons are not exactly like chrome, but it's the same in the sense that it looks outdated/not in sync with a modern design, specially dark mode on top of standing out too much.
In my examples bellow, the second option is way cleaner and less intrusive, and I have no issues identifying they are folders. I respect if people have personal preferences, but I don't think "identifying" the icons is an issue to justify this change.
