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The i7-7700K meet the minimun requierments to run Win11. But its not suported, Why?
The fact is, in all the history of Windows (and MSDOS), it's the first time MS has decided to block a CPU that is young and performant, on other ground than minimum requirements of speed and architecture.
You can argue all you want about your hypothetical theories, it doesn't change that fact.
I know MS has many flaws, but I've always been behind them, it's the first time in my life that I am so baffled in front of a decision.
My computer, even in 4 years, will still be as performant as a mid level pc from that moment.
- I agree - he spends too much time defending Microsloth and his beliefs of why the company has made a stupid decision. Maybe his mom works there.
- I’m not sure to say Microsoft has never done something like this in 40 years… Microsoft has done a lot of things… are you are trying to suggest that the operating systems that were built over the years did not have system requirements? They have drawn the line at the i7 7700k and are not supporting this processor with the Windows 11 release.
- You have a big comprehension problem, Microsoft has NEVER in almost 40 years did something like that. When an OS supports a minimum speed and an architecture type, they never require anything else. It's the first time MS has ever done an arbitrary cutoff like that. It makes NO sense.
You can confort yourself that you're so cool you know people at Microsoft, it still wont help your comprehension of this issue. This thread shows there is a problem and MS has not addressed it.
I sure hope you'll learn with experience in life to read and understand issues besides spewing useless things in a thread about an arbitrary cutoff of random CPUs. Yes, if you do not want to hear from the Microsoft community, please contact Microsoft yourself. Do not complain as I have been polite to you and have not complained about your ignorance. Also, further all my replies have helped to give a most comprehensive answer to the solution something I find interesting and would even like to answer and resolve for myself. Many of my friends are seniors at Microsoft, I know many people who have had high roles within the company and have contributed to the development of the Microsoft community. Some of the answers are blunt, not disguised and honest, rather than hide any facts it’s important to consider all the possible themes in the decision. As well your point of just looking at the TPM module is really insufficient maybe Microsoft wants to guarantee a certain standard of achievement with Windows 11 that the I7 7700k cannot achieve. TPM 2.0 is since 2006 so the idea that Windows 11 must include all computer models made from 2006 seems erroneous, I don’t think your argument is well founded. Maybe you should suck it up and not be so bitter towards the rest of us.
The link shows TPM 2.0 from 2006… https://trustedcomputinggroup.org/wp-content/uploads/TPM-Rev-2.0-Part-4-Supporting-Routines-00.96-130315-code.pdf
- Yes, one more point since the goal is to have a comprehensive analysis. The fabrication of chips is environmentally taxing, we need to meet strict environmental goals and there’s a general chip shortage, auto manufacturers had to cut production so while profits might be important for Microsoft it should be balanced with environmental stewardship and really considering what people need. When I speak about the cost of production I am thinking of the resources precious metals (metallurgy), labor, energy costs, time, electricity and factory considerations like the forest fires in California, etc., it would be more socially responsible seemingly to prolong the life of computers than to make them a disposable item and to continuously increase the demands of resources to the point that we see Microsoft sinking data Centers into the ocean as a means of being able to provide more cloud computing services and so forth that is a threat as well to its habitation. We should consider the need of computers and go to that essence but not to exaggerate it beyond what is healthy, necessary or beneficial.
- Man, are you OK? This has NOTHING to do with the subject at hand, you've been talking alone for like 3 pages, answering your own posts in a subject other people are interested in hearing MS answer, not someone posting weird shit that makes no sense... please relax and go do something else.
- It was a test/experiment that I believe I showed that the production date is not necessarily the same as the date of delivery to the customer and that often it could be 2-3 years before it reaches the customers hands as a brand new top of the line product especially on prebuilds. I showed this to be the case even with Microsoft’s own store and used some of their top vendors based on what appeared to be the hottest and most recommended products for sale. The results could have swayed any which way at first with Best Buy USA shop, it appeared as production date and the date of sale by retailer to customer, time to market may have been close after further investigation with all possible resellers we see that the time to market and production date was mostly separated by 2-3 years… thus showing that in the case of the i7 7700k we see that many may have not had their computer for more than two years, some may have purchased from a major retailer based on their recommendation within as little as a single year and are already facing obsolescence…
- Well, thanks for showing absolutely nothing. MS for the first time in almost 40 years has decided that some CPU that are meeting all the system requirements of the OS (x64, TPM2.0, etc) are not compatible for their OS.
Never have they made this decision. But, hey, continue to talk to yourself in 12 consecutive posts if it makes you happy! My point of the test was to see the likelihood that a front and center item is sold by production date which I showed it is not. My test demonstrates that it is highly likely that someone would have bought the computer somewhere in the last year to 3 years as the latest hottest machine and in this short period of time, ie. less than a year, they are told that it is time to move ahead with another machine if they don’t want to be left out in the dust of obsolescence, have what is deemed as an inferior system or be incompatible and out of date… I proved it with a test that I didn’t know the results ahead of time… the vendor includes Microsoft themselves nevermind the millions of sellers licensed by Microsoft to sell their products and it did not look at the oldest computer that they sold but their preferred suggestion, what they recommended as their hottest item…
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