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Changes to Teams meeting recordings for EDU A1 & “Recording failed to upload to Stream” error

  Hello everyone - I wanted to post a note about a change for Microsoft 365 Education A1 customers which went into effect this week.  This message was posted on the M365 Admin Message Center back o...
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    ChristianBergstrom
    Jan 07, 2021
    Hi, just send the link to them. They’ll know what to do.

    For the record it’s the meeting policy that needs to be updated.

    Set-CsTeamsMeetingPolicy -Identity XXX -RecordingStorageMode "OneDriveForBusiness"

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Hello everyone - I wanted to post a note about a change for Microsoft 365 Education A1 customers which went into effect this week.  This message was posted on the M365 Admin Message Center back on 21-July-2020 as MC218976 (pasted at the bottom of this post), but I wanted to make sure everyone was aware of the change.

In summary, Teams meeting recordings initiated by an A1 licensee will no longer automatically upload to Microsoft Stream. Note that A1 customers can still record Teams meetings, meeting attendees can download and watch the recording, and the recording can be uploaded to Stream, Teams, SharePoint, or OneDrive (see https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/stream/portal-upload-teams-meeting-recording).  

Additionally, as this is rolling out, some customers have reported seeing “Recording failed to upload to Stream” errors, while others are not.  Our apologies for this misleading error message. When this A1 change went live, an update to the message logic and text shown was being rolled out, but it has not reached all M365 users yet. This will be resolved in the upcoming days when the update reaches all customers.

If you have any other questions or comments, please post them below.

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For customers with EDU A1 and A1 Plus licenses, Teams meeting recordings will no longer automatically upload to Microsoft Stream effective August 20, 2020. 

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Key points

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How this will affect your organization

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This change is expected to last through the end of 2020, and Microsoft will provide updates for further changes. Meetings recorded before August 15 are not affected by this change.

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Following this change, your end users will continue to be able to record Teams meetings.

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Meeting recordings will be available in the meeting chat for a period of 21 days after the meeting. After 21 days, the meeting recordings will no longer be available for download from the chat.

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The download dialog includes the expiration date.

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What you need to do to prepare

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Review the change and consider how to advise your end users of the change. Learn how to upload a video to Stream.

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Hello everyone - I wanted to post a note about a change for Microsoft 365 Education A1 customers which went into effect this week.  This message was posted on the M365 Admin Message Center back on 21-July-2020 as MC218976 (pasted at the bottom of this post), but I wanted to make sure everyone was aware of the change.

In summary, Teams meeting recordings initiated by an A1 licensee will no longer automatically upload to Microsoft Stream. Note that A1 customers can still record Teams meetings, meeting attendees can download and watch the recording, and the recording can be uploaded to Stream, Teams, SharePoint, or OneDrive (see https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/stream/portal-upload-teams-meeting-recording).  

Additionally, as this is rolling out, some customers have reported seeing “Recording failed to upload to Stream” errors, while others are not.  Our apologies for this misleading error message. When this A1 change went live, an update to the message logic and text shown was being rolled out, but it has not reached all M365 users yet. This will be resolved in the upcoming days when the update reaches all customers.

If you have any other questions or comments, please post them below.

\n

 

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\n

 

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For customers with EDU A1 and A1 Plus licenses, Teams meeting recordings will no longer automatically upload to Microsoft Stream effective August 20, 2020. 

\n

Key points

\n\n

 

\n

How this will affect your organization

\n

This change is expected to last through the end of 2020, and Microsoft will provide updates for further changes. Meetings recorded before August 15 are not affected by this change.

\n

 

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Following this change, your end users will continue to be able to record Teams meetings.

\n\n

 

\n

Meeting recordings will be available in the meeting chat for a period of 21 days after the meeting. After 21 days, the meeting recordings will no longer be available for download from the chat.

\n

The download dialog includes the expiration date.

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What you need to do to prepare

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Review the change and consider how to advise your end users of the change. Learn how to upload a video to Stream.

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descapa_msft Hi, Daniel, I'm sorry, but what is not being addressed here is the loss of privacy and control over recordings this change entails. It is completely understandable that the servers are overdrawn by the demand, but what is not acceptable is that no workaround to maintain the control over recordings has been added before rolling out this change (like sending the recordings through e-mail or private message). This puts Microsoft Teams well behind its free competitors like G Suite or even free Zoom. While calls might be limited to 40 minutes, the host has complete control over who can see the recordings. This is not the case here. 

Changing licenses is not an answer either, because what is missing is not Stream's service (which in our University wasn't even used because of the lack of external sharing when needed [most Students don't have licenses yet]), but control over recordings. There are lot of educators, like myself, that started using this service only recently because our IT departments (on short budgets) asked what we would like to use and now, after opting for this service, the record function is completely gimped to oblivion out of the blue. If you don't understand how control over recordings is a big issue in Education, then you have no idea what you have done with this move. 

Recordings are not even deletable from chat. Something must be done about this ASAP. 

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 Hi, Daniel, I'm sorry, but what is not being addressed here is the loss of privacy and control over recordings this change entails. It is completely understandable that the servers are overdrawn by the demand, but what is not acceptable is that no workaround to maintain the control over recordings has been added before rolling out this change (like sending the recordings through e-mail or private message). This puts Microsoft Teams well behind its free competitors like G Suite or even free Zoom. While calls might be limited to 40 minutes, the host has complete control over who can see the recordings. This is not the case here. 

Changing licenses is not an answer either, because what is missing is not Stream's service (which in our University wasn't even used because of the lack of external sharing when needed [most Students don't have licenses yet]), but control over recordings. There are lot of educators, like myself, that started using this service only recently because our IT departments (on short budgets) asked what we would like to use and now, after opting for this service, the record function is completely gimped to oblivion out of the blue. If you don't understand how control over recordings is a big issue in Education, then you have no idea what you have done with this move. 

Recordings are not even deletable from chat. Something must be done about this ASAP. 

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For the record it’s the meeting policy that needs to be updated.

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descapa_msft 

 

Hi there, thanks for the reminder. Is there any workaround? This auto-upload feature is very useful, especially for use in education. Every lesson is automatically recorded and available. Students can simply scroll back to the past and watch the lesson again for revision. This 21 days expiration is a disappointment. If we have to download each video and upload it somewhere to share, then it is no difference from Zoom. 

I really hope MS reinstate this killer feature that no one else has. 

Can I use Power Automate to make it look like nothing has changed? 

 

Thanks!

Gary

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Hi there, thanks for the reminder. Is there any workaround? This auto-upload feature is very useful, especially for use in education. Every lesson is automatically recorded and available. Students can simply scroll back to the past and watch the lesson again for revision. This 21 days expiration is a disappointment. If we have to download each video and upload it somewhere to share, then it is no difference from Zoom. 

I really hope MS reinstate this killer feature that no one else has. 

Can I use Power Automate to make it look like nothing has changed? 

 

Thanks!

Gary

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garyang The workaround is that for the customers who need to record ensure that they are on any other license than A1.  They could be on A3, A5, E3, etc.  Like we said in the post this is a temporary change so expect more updates in the upcoming months, and in the meantime please transition to another license.  

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If you need anything else please let me know.

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 The workaround is that for the customers who need to record ensure that they are on any other license than A1.  They could be on A3, A5, E3, etc.  Like we said in the post this is a temporary change so expect more updates in the upcoming months, and in the meantime please transition to another license.  

\n

If you need anything else please let me know.

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mesantelli the team is aware of customers asking about delete and are working on addressing this set of feedback.  

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descapa_msft \"the team is aware of customers asking about delete and are working on addressing this set of feedback.\" That is great news!

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This is so true mesantelli, completely messed up the way we are doing things! 

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mesantelli / descapa_msft I also have concerns that this will cause issues with privacy - as videos can be downloaded onto any device by any member of the school, those videos could potentially then be spread around anywhere instead of being kept within the school.

 

Can you please confirm whether we can set it so students cannot download videos from their class Teams, and only teachers can do so to enable them being uploaded onto Stream?

 

I just cannot understand why no one thought about the safeguarding consequences of this change. Truly shocking.

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