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What is the plan for "modern" Document Sets?
- Its too early to put specifics on the roadmap - but we will update document sets. We are not being "classic Microsoft" here - there is a steady stream of requests for docsets (along with other parts of classic ECM) and I've never pretended otherwise. Fear is not part of the plan. I hope to be able to give roadmap updates at SPC or Ignite this year, if that helps.
Whereas I find that when suddenly presented with a bar full of buttons that appeared on no other screen (most of which don't do anything very useful but can cause serious problems) people press them esepcailly wgen they options they use in every other library are gone.
After nearly 35 years as an IT trainer, I still think that inconsistent UI and unpredictable behaviour is one of the things that makes technology a disappointment to most people - they like to feel they understand something and then when they find they don't it's like being slapped in the face by a friend .c.f the confusion that is teams vs groups vs UI in outlook vs ui in mail, browse library vs files, e-mails to a group address not being visible in the corresponding teams UI, planner appearing and disappearing depending on where you click etc .etc
Today I was helping user who had put a date column as a document property in word - when she viewed the same document in word online the date switched to one day earlier - no idea why but how could this happen?
Julie Sanders wrote:I feel that changes over the past few months for Doc Sets have been a great improvement - much more consistent with modern UI. I have just finished a handful of webcasts for a client and unfortunately have to explain the differerent UI for things like tasks, doc sets, etc., but they don't seem to really notice - SharePoint is new to them so that's just the way it is.
Hi,
Regarding the "minus 1 day" in World Online, it could be explained if the date was been shown as UTC instead of the one in your time zone. It is only my theory, but this is a bug that I have as well in Sweden.
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Sorry. I see now that you had already a conversation with Matt about this.
Did you get some response from Microsoft support or have some workaround? It is painful to have additional Text fields (and update them via t.ex. Webhooks when the source Date field changes) only because of this bug.
Thanks but we just abandonned our plans in the end. Elected Councillors are generally older people with lower IT skills. Many would prefer paper;. as it happens we have persuaded them to accept windows tablets and have some success using email with scqnned attachmenrs. Trying to move them into a sharepoint world whereven the experts have to admit it doesnt work properly (randomly varying UI) bodged word documents etc. would probably bring back arguments to abandon IT in favour of paper.
It's sad that we were nearly done 18 months ago and have been able to make no progress; even sadder that signs of a promised fix haven't even appeared on a roadmap.
My credibility as the IT advocate has been damaged; the idea that we migth offer our solution to the hundreds of other town & parish councils that could benefit from document sets (with connected word templates for collating meeting documents) has complwtely disappeared; a dcoument for each meeting would mean that each document shared metadata such a datenof meeting, committe, clerk etc.