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VIEW ALL PARTICIPANTS IN VIDEO MEETING
Right, lots in this thread to unpack.
1. The 4 video view will work in the desktop app on Windows, Mac, Linux or the mobile app on Apple or Android. It is not possible in the browser. I don't believe this is likely to change in any useful time period.
2. The 9 video view is in development, and Microsoft have heard loud and clear from MVPs that it's important. As far as I know it won't be here during April.
3. The view you see will always be the students that talked most recently. If you keep your students muted and unmute to speak it shouldn't be confusing to work out who is speaking.
4. As the teacher you can select any of the students in your meeting to view their video by clicking on the ... next to their name in the list of attendees and selecting pin, once you have finished unpin to get back to active speakers.
4. Your school districts are probably wise to not permit the use of Zoom, they have a responsibility to not allow your student data to be accessed by third parties or several other risks. Look up zoom bombing if you think it'll be fine, or when zoom were sending data to Facebook without permission, or when hackers worked out how to access private meetings.
5. Teams has very good controls to allow you to keep order during a meeting, controlling who can speak, present etc. It's harder to achieve this in Zoom. Tips in my video attached.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKdlyf_KDCg
We also need all participant viewable. I am trying to wean my organisation of zoom, but when the capabilities are not equivalent it’s difficult.
With so many remote workers and groups due to Covid19 this is more important to us than ever.
Edineen2020 I have found it really embarrassing, as an IT department, that we have been shouting out about the exiting collaboration abilities that we would have using Teams, especially if we ever need to work remotely, then along comes Covid 19 and i have my CEO promoting zoom and absolutely rubbishing Teams specifically for this issue! Come on Microsoft, how can you just sit there and not realise this is a major business loss for you if you don't make a change that is equivalent to your major competitors!!
My two cents is that in very large, locked-down organizations, maybe the IT staff can force people to stay on Teams. Our President just used his own credit card to buy a Zoom subscription because of Teams limitations. My daughter's school will not use Teams for the same reasons that all the Edu posters mentioned. My Karate instructor chose Zoom over the Teams account I was willing to give him free for this reason.
Now, MS can hold their line that "Big Corporate" is happy. That's how IBM lost the PC market. That's how Apple took over Education (and how Google replaced Apple there).
I think the whole O365/Teams environment is a great tool. But MS arrogance regarding the markets that are not their mainstream right now will cost them the whole market if the attitude persists.
- Unfortunately, exactly the same here. I was touting the many virtues of Teams, and the first three Teams sessions run by our teams (large, 30+ attendees) and department (90+ attendees) were an utter disaster, specifically (yes, specifically called out by both the hosts and attendees) because of the multiple attendee view being limited to 4 users.
And no, 9 is insufficient.
And no, this was *before* the coronavirus had us all working from home.
Situation now: most users simply aren't using Teams at all, even for calls involving 4 or less attendees. The majority have gone back to WebEx, for which we now know we are going to have to keep paying through the nose (somewhere in the region of £600,000 across the business), whereas a few are now using Zoom. That money could have been going to Microsoft. Well played! Not.
