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- Soooo happy to see the subscription model coming to /servers/ /s how long until perpetual is eliminated?
- In a world where it is really unsafe to run an old version anyways, I am not sure a subscription-based pricing model is inherently bad. Most on-premise enterprise software is already sold with a subscription at minimum for access to updates. The biggest issue for me is ensuring that it isn't connected to Microsoft's cloud environment and does not require Internet access, and will not suddenly break if an invoice doesn't get handled within a given week.
- Elden_Christensen
Microsoft
Hi Jake, WS2025 PayGo will be similar to Azure Stack HCI in that the system will be resilient to brownouts with temporary loss of internet connectivity, but will need to be able to submit the billing data at least once every 30-days.
- Artem Pronichkinthere are no plans to "eliminate" perpetual licensing. There are many different types of customers with unique needs to license Windows Server, and we appreciate all of them.
- Get started with the Windows Insider Program for Windows Server Today! https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-insider/business/server-get-started
- What is the default browser installed on 2025?
- BrentforEdge browser, just like Server 2022
- im running ws22 on a brunch of servers, with perpetual licenses. if I want to update to ws25 do I need to buy new licenses or can I just do the upgrade to ws25?
- Elden_ChristensenYes, no changes from previous releases. Upgrading will require purchasing a new license. There are some offerings that give upgrade rights as part of the benefits, such as with Software Assurance.
How does the inclusion of winget on Windows Server 2025, where installing one of nine other less vetted results for "sticky notes" is one incorrect copy/paste of a randomly generated ID away square with a "security-first" posture? As far as I know, all of the security and moderation concerns for winget have been completely dismissed by Microsoft and not addressed entirely. (Also, please tell me 2025 is fixing "Edge will load malicious ads on first load by default", the loss of IE ESC is a shocking security downgrade if you are just trying to jump over to a local URL.)
- Than don't install the GUI....!
- Artem Pronichkin
Windows Server takes security very seriously. But like any other product on the market, we have to balance security with usability and value that certain features can deliver.
you don't have to use winget, as well as Edge or any other feature. If you have concerns about the security or usefulness of those components, you're welcome to block them by application control policies or simply disregard and never launch the said feature.
that said, if you have specific concerns about security about one or more OS components, please share links to that information. There's a high chance those concerns are either already addressed by the respective feature owners, or in the process of being addressed.
- It's also worth noting that the readme states right on the official repo: https://github.com/microsoft/winget-pkgs : 38% of the packages are out of date, and 8% of them have security vulnerabilities. I understand I have the option to not use this feature and I do not use it, but I am confused why it is regularly promoted in demonstrations where a "security by default" posture is being advertised.
- Question: Did I see correct that Microsoft Outlook is on Windows Server 2025 Insider Preview Build by Default?
- BrentforHi, I can confirm that this is not the case. There is no plan to do this.
- How SMB over QUIC is different from Windows Server 2022 Azure Edition? Are there any additional enhancement available in Windows server 2025?
Hi. We have a full session on SMB, including all the changes in SMB over QUIC, at Next-generation SMB file services | Windows Server Summit 2024 (microsoft.com) later today. There are some pretty big changes coming.
- So many cool new things coming from HCI to WS 🙂 other things are cool too 🙂 like new AD improvements :-) Happy Azure Stacking!!!
- Very happy to see the focus on value-add propositions.
- What if I don't need that huge amount of VM resources that is available on Gen2 VMs? Why should I use Gen2 then? Gen1 fits all my requirements just fine.
Hi Kirill.
Gen2 VMs will be selected by default for SCVMM, Windows Admin Center, and Hyper-V manager when creating a VM. This is because there are many advantages, including the following. Powershell and WMI default has not changed, so scripts that assume Gen1 will not be effected.
- Secure Boot and other security enhancements
- Larger boot device support
- More efficient keyboard/mouse/video, not emulated
We suggest only using Gen1 if the OS in the guest doesn't support Gen2
- Can't boot using UEFI
- OS that requires legacy emulationhttps://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/virtualization/hyper-v/plan/should-i-create-a-generation-1-or-2-virtual-machine-in-hyper-v
- Yeah, well, I don't need any of these enhancements 🤷:male_sign:
- BrentforChecking you have seen this article? Thanks. https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/virtualization/hyper-v/plan/should-i-create-a-generation-1-or-2-virtual-machine-in-hyper-v
- Thank you, Brent. Yes, I've seen that and I do not see any advantages of Gen2 over Gen1 for my use cases: I don't care about Secure Boot here, I don't need to boot over network, I don't need huge VHDX.
