Event banner
Event details
83 Comments
- EmilyPerina
Community Manager
That’s a wrap! Thank you for joining our Microsoft Syntex AMA today! We appreciate all the great questions and hope you learned something new! I'll be locking this event to new questions, but our experts will still be able to respond to any unanswered questions. Stay tuned for more Microsoft Syntex news!
For any other questions about Syntex, head to the Microsoft Syntex Community Discussion Space.
- Thanks everyone!
- Will the Syntex service ever be available outside of SharePoint like on Azure blob storage or anywhere like that?
- wbaer
Microsoft
To expand on Chris' response... we do have future plans to allow 3P data to participate in Syntex through Microsoft Graph connectors which will function similar to how you can bring data into the Microsoft 365 data state with Microsoft Search today. Nearer term, Syntex will soon work with images and emails (as well as DAV data) as we expand beyond SPO.- Shouldn't we use the Azure Cognitive Services for content outside M365?
- We've done some design work on using Syntex models against remote content but no dates to share. To be fair, ABS is a limitied storage system with no intrinsic support for versioning, coauth, sharing and particularly custom metadata - part of ehy M365 is a great home for those critical content scenarios.
- Can you provide more detail around the features/options available with backup and restore?
- Syntex Backup will allow you to protect and recover content across SharePoint, OneDrive, and Exchange. You'll be able to specify how long to retain backups based on your need for information protection and recovery. Over time, we'll add other targets such as Microsoft Teams and Groups to the scope. Backups will be kept in Microsoft 365 within your organization's trust boundary. Final pricing and packaging will be announced at GA.
- JamesEcclesWe'll have more detail to share on this over the coming months. But the important thing to say about this feature is that its in addition to all of the existing data resiliency and restore features in the product today. For example, if you had a high profile site where you wanted to have backups for many months or years. Syntex would give you the ability to set a granular policy for that important content.
1. What is the maximum no of Microsoft Syntex models that can be applied on single document library (Unstructured Document processing)? I have tried with 3, it did work well. But in case I need to have ~100 models created for my legal department, pls validate it will make more sense to have divide these models in 30 logical buckets, each bucket having 3 models and applied on document libraries.
2. What's the way using which we can identify the list of documents which Syntex was not able to process/classify?
3. I assume if a unstructured document model is already associated with 30+ libraries, making change in model will automatically reflected back in all libraries.
4. If the customer is having DMS where they are uploading content in French and German languages as well (though English is primary language for their DMS); whether the models that we have trained using English training documents will work on these other languages content too (I assume not)? Or is it required to train the model using training files of other languages (which I assume it should be)? Whether training a single model using different languages training files can create any issue (So in the model we will be using English, French and German languages sample files to train)?
- To add to this. I believe currently FreeForm or Structured models (using AI Builder) are limited to only 1 per doc lib while you can have many (up to a limit?) for unstructured. Is that correct? Are there plans to allow multiple AI Builder based models in the future to a single lib?
- JamesEcclesThat's correct Mario- multiple unstructured, but only a single freeform or structured model per library. This is because only Unstructured models include a classifier component. We definitely want to have a classification story that goes across all model types. Watch this space!
- JamesEccles1. There is no hard limit, but we tend to recommend up to 10 unstructured models per library. This is because a file is evaluated against all of the models during classification, so having a large number will have a performance impact. If there is a logical categorisation you can make to split this into multiple libraries (perhaps 10), then this would be a good balance. 2. We're working on a method for you to see this. Right now, you can't distinguish between a file that can't be classified and one that is still waiting to be processed. Anything that Syntex has not classified in a library will be set to the default content type (such as 'Document') 3. This depends on the nature of the change. If you are creating new extractors, then you will have to re-sync from the content center to push out the updated columns. But if your change is just focused on training quality, then they will be pushed out automatically. 4. There is no one size fits all answer to this 🙂. You could choose to have models that look at each language separately (which might be easier to train and manage), or have a single model that has samples and training for all languages (that gives a simpler output, and a single content type). I would suggest you need to decide based on how complex the entities you want to extract are.
- What are the benefits of using Microsoft Syntex in a business related structure?
- wbaerHi Babedi, can you expand on the question? Is there a particular use case scenario that you have in mind, such as an industry example, etc.?
- In gov cloud will we ever be able to add our taxonomy into Microsoft Graph to teach the machine to learn our taxonomy?
- Taxonomy services and unstructured document processing are already in GCC, so you can use taxonomy tags on content based on extracted metadata automatically today.
- Thanks, Chris - Can you point me to where I can learn more regarding, "use taxonomy tags on content based on extracted metadata automatically" - TY
- I would love to learn more about "Taxonomy Tagger" referenced at Ignite. What is it and what are its functions? TY
- IanStoryHi Chuck! Basically the taxonomy tagger allows you to use your SharePoint taxonomy (aka managed metadata) to extract metadata from documents. You might for instance have a list of all the office locations for your company defined in your taxonomy. You can then take that list and apply it to a document library and run the taxonomy tagger against the documents, each document will then get tagged with the appropriate office location(s). You don't have to build a model or anything else, it's one of the easiest ways to use what you already have in SharePoint to enrich your documents with more metadata! You'll see this landing in the first half of calendar year 2023, if all goes well!
- Hi Ian! This sounds like a great feature - Any chance of seeing a demo? Also, DYK if that drop date (first half of CY '23) will be the same for gov? Thanks and Cheers!
- Taxonomy tagger is a lightweight way to map a section of your taxonomy to a model and automatically add taxonomy tags to content based on document text. We'll have demos ready soon,
- What role does Microsoft Syntex™ play in understanding *everything* in the file share and classifying it as it gets migrated to the Microsoft cloud?
- wbaerWe have future plans to allow 3P data to participate in Syntex through Microsoft Graph connectors which will function similar to how you can bring data into the Microsoft 365 data state with Microsoft Search today. Nearer term, Syntex will soon work with images and emails (as well as DAV connector data) as we expand the offer beyond SPO.
- Syntex only works on files in SPO. So one answer would be to upload content to a location with Syntex models applied and Syntex will classify and extract documents as migrated. However, currently Syntex doesn't work on external content prior to migration.
- Will this page remain accessible after the AMA?
- EmilyPerinaHi Lorne! Yes this page will still be accessible after the event. At the end of the hour, the page will be locked to new questions, but you will still be able to access and read through all the answered questions.
- EmilyPerina
Welcome to the Microsoft Syntex Ask Microsoft Anything (AMA)! This live hour gives you the opportunity to ask questions directly to the Microsoft team. Please post any questions in a separate, new comment thread on this event. Thanks!
- And hi - Chris McNulty from Syntex marketing here today.
jolenetamHi everyone! I'm Jolene, on the Product Marketing team for Microsoft Syntex. Ask us ANYTHING (well, related to Syntex, Content AI, content services)!- JamesEcclesHi everyone, I'm James Eccles, Customer Experience Program Manager on the Syntex team. Looking forward to answering these GREAT questions
