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File explorer "see more" tab always opens upwards 24H2
Hi all! I'm on 24H2 with Insider RP build 1882. When I go into File Explorer and click on the 3 dots in the address bar for "see more" the tab always opens upwards. Hence if the window is at the top of the screen, the options are not visible. I have to drag the screen down in order to see them and when I do drag, there's a black bar appears at the top of the screen. Happens on all 3 of my PCs. The view button opens correctly.
Anyone else seeing this?
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Hello, the other day I explained how I fixed the problem, but I included links; maybe that's not allowed because my comment wasn't published. So I used the ViveTool-gui application. It's very easy to use, you can find it on GitHub.
Insert the ID number > 51960011 in Advanced Options, then click on Perform Option and Disabled. The Explorer menu bug is resolved after restarting the PC.
I had already tried a few times with one command in administrator mode and the other ViveTool, but I couldn't figure out how to do it.
This is a Google translation from French.
Bonne journée !
Same issue. Annoying as drag window bottom and use floating Explorer menus.
On the bright side. Explorer rising to the occasion.
Microsoft is finally rolling out an official experimental fix to some users with Build 26120.3380.
The fix is not propagated to all the other 24H2 builds and Canary yet.
Hopefully they will make up their mind. This issue has been around for over 4 months. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤷♂️
At least it finally works without adding the extra bug on closing File Explorer. Will see how long it will take to get the same fix on all the affected builds. 😎🤬🤷♂️
On March 22, 2025, I tried enabling the same feature id:54792954 in Canary Build 27818.1000 and it works on that Build too. 👍
The same feature id is still not working on 26100.3476.
Looks like MS did not propagate the fix yet to current public build. 😝🤷♂️
I find it incredible that Microsoft developers leave this problem to say the least, lasting so long. Do they deserve their salary with all these problems on this 24H2 version? 😂
This is a French translation from Quebec !
The same feature id:54792954 fixes the problem also in Canary Build 27818.1000 when that feature id is enabled.
Still Microsoft did not propagate the fix to public Build 26100.3476 nor R.P. Build 26100.3613.
We'll see how long it will take before they roll out the fix to all 24H2 affected builds.
Hopefully not 4 more months. 🤣🤣🤣🤬
Yet, in Dev Build 26120.3576 they tried another experimental fix and dropped 54792954.
Unfortunately, those changes added another bug which causes File Explorer to crash with exception code 0xc0000005 when trying to cut and paste any system image backup files from one folder to another.
There are way too many different feature IDs enabled to figure out which one is causing the new bug which started happening on March 22, 2025. 😵💫🤬🤷♂️
Way too many experiments MS is doing under the cover are causing all these inconsistent behaviors and adding extra bugs. I really hate the inconsistencies that they keep creating with their experiments.
I'm afraid this is not yet the end of this saga. 😵💫😝🤬
On Feb 14, 2025, the MS blog for Build 26120.3281 says that the problem is fixed. That is not quite true, it appeared to be fixed on one machine but not another with the same exact Build number.
- Fixed an issue causing the see more “…” menu in the command bar to open in the wrong direction for some resolutions.
After some further testing, I figured out the difference for Build 26120.3281.
The different behavior is caused by one of those experimental features that was enabled on a Beta machine and not on another in Dev channel with the same exact Build.
Feature id [54792954] (Labels on file explorer context menu) is the cause of the difference.
That feature is the one that added the labels under the icons in the context menu of 23H2, which is not needed in 24H2, because those labels are already added without that experimental feature.
With this build 26120.3281, it seems to fix the 3 dots menu problem too but adds the second problem for the F.E. not closing just with a click on the red. X. 🤣🤣
Not a good choice, if I enable id:54792954 I have one bug (F.E. closing bug), if I disable it, I get the other bug (3 dots menu opening upwards).
Come on MS fix this mess properly!
Ensure you're running the latest version of Windows 24H2 and the Insider RP build. You can do this by going to Settings > Update & Security > Windows Update.
This worked for me, thx
"The 'See More' menu (three dots in File Explorer address bar) always opens upwards in build 1882, causing it to be partially or completely off-screen when the File Explorer window is at the top of the screen."
See my previous replies, disable id:51960011 to get rid of the problem, Microsoft has been ignoring this bug that they added months ago. The problem happens with various display Scale setting.
It looks like a UI bug in Windows 24H2 Insider RP build 1882. The "See more" menu opening upwards and becoming inaccessible when the window is at the top suggests a positioning issue. The black bar appearing when dragging could be a rendering glitch. Since it's happening on all your PCs, it's likely a system-wide bug. You might want to report it via the Feedback Hub and check for updates or fixes in future builds. Meanwhile, as a workaround, try resizing or repositioning the window before clicking the menu.
That bug has been reported for months in the Feedback Hub and Microsoft didn't do anything to fix it yet.
The bug was introduced by a useless experimental fix. [51960011] (FileExplorerTabLineFix).
Disabling that failing fix, eliminates the problem. Microsoft is just ignoring the FBH reports. 😝🤬
3 dots in the address bar for "see more" the tab always opens upwards, still happening for me machine for new version upgraded to 24H2 OS build 26100.2894 latest.
There is no official fix yet.
You can work around the bug by disabling the feature id:51960011.
Since you're using an Insider build, ensure that you're running the latest version, as Microsoft often releases fixes and updates that can resolve such issues. Check for updates by going to Settings > Windows Update and see if there are any pending updates.
The problem is not just on insider builds it is also on current 24H2 public build 26100.2894.
Microsoft has not released a valid fix for this problem yet. The bug was added when they enabled, by default, on all 24H2 builds an experimental fix for a completely different issue.
Not only that fix did not work, instead it added this extra bug on file explorer opening the 3 dots menu in the wrong direction.
An easy workaround is by disabling the bad useless fix which added this bug.
The culprit is the feature id below that is causing this bug:
[51960011] (FileExplorerTabLineFix)
If you disable it, the bug will go away. 😉🤷♂️
The problem has been reported months ago, Microsoft tried to fix it, but the released fix only worked partially for some specific Display Scale setting.
Still fails with Display Scale of 125%, 150%, 175% etc.
It may work with Scale of 100%, 200%, 300%.
Disabling the feature id:51960011 eliminates the problem completely with any display settings. 😉👌
You can see here that it was enabled in the ImageDefault of all 24H2 Builds and also latest Canary Build 27774.1000. That is how MS added this annoying bug. 🤬
The workaround is showing up on several non-MS web sites and even MS Copilot will point to that unofficial workaround to eliminate the problem while waiting for an official good working fix. 😂😂😉🤷♂️
It sounds like you're encountering a frustrating issue with the "See more" options in File Explorer, specifically with how the menu opens upward instead of downwards. This can definitely be annoying, especially when it obscures the options you want to see.
There is an easy way to fix the bug, by disabling that useless feature ID 51960011 that MS enabled by default on all 24H2 builds. It was reported several times to Microsoft, but they just seem to ignore the FBH reports. 🤷♂️
The problem happens when the Display Scale settings is 125%, 150%, 175% etc.
Does not fail with Scale of 100%, 200%, 300%.
New laptops have higher resolutions, unfortunately this results in a tiny taskbar and tiny fonts. I have two of these PCs and I actually set their resolution to 150% to have a normal-sized taskbar. And it is on these two PCs that I have or had this problem. Thanks by the way for the problematic ID number, it is thanks to you that I was finally able to resolve this calamity. :-)
