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Windows 11 May update causing many conflicts
good afternoonish,
Alright, will try to make this short but include what I've done technically... oh boy. I've avoided the May updates this month due to a conflict with my applications when I updated. I rolled back and waiting for the later deployments to happen. That was until the other day, when I decided I'd tempt fate and fix anything along the way in the name of progress. I updated to the most recent May, Windows 11 update, this is where im still stumped.
So now I sit, Windows 11 Insider build, Beta, and still having issues. I did a fresh stand-in install of the most recent 24H2 windows 11 build. I used DDU and AMD uninstaller to safely uninstall, to reinstall AMD, latest driver. I've gone through and installed fresh Firefox, even though it's not a browser issue now that this state.
My issue is that browsers(firefox and Edge), background applications, AMD Adrenaline software, Steam, Illustrator, Windows Mail.. everything will crash randomly, in random amounts of access and leeway. Browsers will either go blank or black screen, and either soft crash (software catches and restores) or until hard crashes.. and just about everything else follows the same suit. Certain games, such as Stalker 2, locks up at cache startup.
The first attempt at this update, nothing would launch, so I rolled back to Aprils Windows 24H2 and gave it another 10 days. After hearing about a hotfix I decided to try it, and after the 10 days, and it felt like everything worked. Thats when I noticed all these crashes happening.. so I did the stain-in update to see if that fixed it and I did need to do some leftover system cleaning anyhow... and thats part of why I cannot roll back to Aprils build that worked. I know, I thought I could fix it and do some late spring cleaning at the same time.
I've watched EventViewer to catch things, but end up chasing rabbit holes that are kinda pointless, and when your browser crashes anywhere from a range of 15 seconds to 3 minuntes, kinda makes things a little frivalous. I am fairly versed in computers and programming, certainly not the average, but at this point I feel like I'm running in circles. I'd gladly reinstall Aprils version of 24H2 if I could find the stand-in ISO, but at the same time, I like moving forward.
Ran sfc and DISM restores, everything checks good, though DISM restorehealth hangs at 62.3% for a bit. Passed with 0 errors of a memorytest too. All windows diagnostic processes that I could think of checked things as okay.
So to sum it up, visual applications across the board soft or hard crash. Also random screens of black occur. Its kinda like a conflict between graphic drivers, but cannot track it down.
I had to compose this in notepad, because it is one of the few stable applications that seems to run.
Let me know what logs I can provide to help get to the bottom of this. I hand built this rig and haven't had any issues with it up till this latest set of system updates.
quick spec overview;
CPU - 12700k
MB - strix z690-a = bios 4101
RAM - ddr4 64gb
GPU - AMD 7900gre Sapphire Pure
boot system is on a m.2
Windows Insider build - 26120.3964 ge_release
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The May updates are disastrous to my GPU, I got RTX 5090 in March and everything was dreamy until the May updates to Windows 11. When my GPU started failing mid May, I freaked out that it was faulty after re-installing win11 five times and still having errors, I actually started the return process of the GPU thinking it was faulty, until figured out the issue that is. Couldn't roll back drivers after fresh install so that was out of the question and Win11 requires an internet connection to complete installation so kept installing the faulty updates as a matter of course without ability to uninstall these (that needs fixing Microsoft, reinstallation should use the last stable update so people can troubleshoot properly).
The GPU kept failing when working with point clouds, at first I thought its the size of the point cloud but in the end it related to how many points were being displayed on the screen i.e. when I zoomed out to view the entire 3D Space, so even had issues with relatively small point clouds of about 250GB.
How I did figure out that its Win11 and not my GPU was by installing Windows 10 and woah, everything runs smoothly and no GPU issues at all, great but what about windows 11, will the issues ever get fixed.
What is currently lacking is communication from Microsoft on these issues, how do I know they are working on resolving it (hence Win 10 install remains on my machine for the foreseeable). Communication is essential here especially where there are faults and the community is freaking out. I mean I am considering Linux if stability doesn't return to Windows 11, or at least transparency from Microsoft.
Specs
CPU - Ultra 285K
MB - Z890 Aorus Ice Pro (BIOS F16)
RAM - 192GB DDR5
GPU ASUS RTX 5090
Currently running Win 10 build19045 which is stable (waiting to hear of fixes)
Thanks for replying. I had scoured through Reddit and computer forums and found multiple people had issues, mostly around being with the May update and hotfixes. Though, nobody really had any solutions to the problem.
dism /online/cleanup-image /restorehealth, sfc scans and chkdsk, would get dodgy from time to time, and finally after a few hours of this original post, the sfc scans started failing constantly and the in my logs it kept referencing some core library failure and unable to retrieve the necessary files from the internet. At that point, there's a plethora of 10 step guides to fix these things, but no matter what I did, it kept flagging errors.
so once that started flying its error flags, I decided to make a windows11 install usb-drive and do a complete reformat and fresh install on my main system drive. not exactly what I wanted to do, but sure as hell glad I spent the half a week and did it. After the install, I haven't run into any issues.
but yes, I agree.. Microsoft is lacking on being vocal about their updates, to even responding to issues on their own community forum. I think their new coding for doing live updates / fixes that they've been rolling out, to prevent people from having to reset their machines after an update, is screwing with the system core library. the fact that their own dism tool fails to even repair the issue too means something way screwier is going on, and I'm not sure they even know how to fix it yet.
Running Windows 11 now, build 26100.4061... just took reformatting and a complete fresh install to do it.
