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MicrosoftROLLING OUT: SharePoint Online team sites + Office 365 Groups & Pages
Today marks the beginning of bringing the full power of SharePoint to Office 365 Groups, with additional benefits to SharePoint Online all up! New and existing groups will get modern team sites, which come with an updated Home page, the ability to pin items within the new Quick links web part, and to see what's going on in the site via the new Activity web part.
These team sites within Office 365 Groups, and existing team sites throughout SharePoint Online, will also have the ability to create publishing pages - fast, easy to author pages that support rich multimedia content, and look great on mobile browsers and via the SharePoint mobile app. Get ready to communicate and share your ideas within SharePoint like never before.
Additionally, Microsoft will increase the site collection limit in SharePoint Online to "up to 25TB" (previously "up to 1TB); this will be refelcted in an update to the official "SharePoint Online boundaries and limits" support article.
Please review the associated blog on blogs.office.com, "New capabilities in SharePoint Online team sites including integration with Office 365 Groups" with numerous links to new and updated support.office.com articles.
Let us know what you think,
Mark
We don't want Teams turned on in our tenant. I had it physically turned off on each users license - now it on everywhere.
Why does MS insist on doing this. Teams are preveived as social and that word is taboo in our company. How do I turn this off tenant wide without having to touch every users and edit their license?
Give us new stuff - yes. But let us decide when to turn it on in our tenant.
- Mark-KashmanHi Guy, do you mean Microsoft Teams? If so, I'd hop off of this thread and sneak the feedback into the MS Teams community site: https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/Microsoft-Teams/ct-p/MicrosoftTeams - where the direct team can hear your feedback. Thx, Mark. I'll certainly pass it along as we meet often as a v-team across the broader Groups effort...
Sorry Mark - guess I'm in the wrong place. Saw Teams and....
Completely agree with Guy. In our situation as an educational institution it gets silly in the way that Teams is not available to Educational institutions yet, but the licenses were still enabled for us. So now our users see the link in the menu, but when they click it it tells them that they should contact their administrator, to have Teams enabled... which we obviously can't! Our plan is to wait and see how many actually see this and if it doesn't become a huge problem, we will wait until Azure AD administration using the new Azure portal goes GA and just use the new method of assigning licenses to groups of people, instead of having to individually assign or unassigned via PowerShell...
The tenant-wide on/off switch is still there. You can flip it back to off.
(would be nice if the App Launcher icon also got disabled when we did that, thought the Store and Sway icons also appear if they are disabled. So, yeah, Microsoft...)
Where is that tenant wide On/Off switch. I may be blind but I sure can't seem to find it.
Ooooh, Modern sites now support composed looks (even customized composed looks). So, if you add a custom color palette, it adjusts! Very nice! Even our friendly little swirly grey graphic on the front change as the palette colors change.
A nice little surprise!
Which aspects does the composed look effect?
- Bottom border of the header
- Command bar icons
- Item hover
If you already have a custom composed look set, you should automatically see those colours picked up, as seen in the screenshot below. If you haven’t created a composed look, you can either select one of the other available themes under the “change the look” setting, or create your own composed look. A great tutorial on how to create a composed look can be seen at Marc Anderson’s blog:
Screenshot?
Here you go. It really affects the entire page and is done quite well. This site was RED and grey graphics was FAR darker. Notice the blue touches everywhere and the graphic even has a VERY light blue tinge now. Well done! Site Contents, modern lists, etc, also follow the composed look too.
Corrected (ignore my question - I see Tejas Mehta answered the question officially for permissions and groups/SharePoint sites).
Copying here as it never hurts to be written twice:"SharePoint does provide the ability for Site Owners to specify different permissions on resources. Office 365 Groups promises a permission model whereby all group members have access to the group’s resources across workloads (e.g. conversations, files, notebook, etc.). To deliver consistency, SharePoint site collections associated with a Group will also follow this model. So, a group (site) owner can add new permission levels and assign to new users or groups on a resource, but would not be able to remove the permission levels assigned to the group’s owners or members. We are working on delivering a new permissions management UX that will allow for group (site) owners to change the group members’ permission level from Edit to Read-only (and vice versa) but you would not be able to remove the members from resources in the SharePoint site collection."
- Alina SkarbovskyHi Clint Lechner , Yes , modern pages and homepage are rolling out separately. Adding some folks for details if you have any questions Alyssa Danesh , LincolnDeMaris
In the IOS SharePoint app how do you make a new style page load by default, instead of "Activity"?
Currently I have a new site "students" and three subsites. All four sites have the new style pages set as home but in the app, selecting "students" gives just the activity feed. For the three subsites though the quick links (left nav) loads the new pages.
Just had a quick first look at the new pages.. is Microsoft thinking about setting up a Miles & More member scheme? All these new layouts have the same in common: so little content is actually visible and so much scrolling involved.
The amount of information I can put in the same amount of space on these new pages compared to the current pages is negligible. There is the large amount of space which is taken up be the site name and menu, then half of the page is taken up by an image placeholder which no one really needs and then I am forced to use a huge font size, one column layout... content really is not king here.
Is this the only layout available to us in the near future?
- Alyssa Danesh
Hi Philine -
More layouts to come! The single column layout is just the first one out the door. Multicolumn layouts are absolutely a feature we are actively working on.
Thank you for your feedback regarding the spacing around the site header/placeholder image and nav. :smileyhappy:
Alyssa Danesh wrote:Hi Philine -
More layouts to come! The single column layout is just the first one out the door. Multicolumn layouts are absolutely a feature we are actively working on.
Thank you for your feedback regarding the spacing around the site header/placeholder image and nav. :smileyhappy:
Hallelujah, just got my first chance to play with these new modern pages, and this is the first thing that I noticed.
We've used the Bootstrap responsive layouts in SharePoint Online for years with great success, so for our organization, going back to a big fat single column would be hard to stomach.
I also hate the giant banner. Between the O365 Header, the Site Header, and the Banner, MOST screens wont allow you to see content at all on page load.
Taking a look at how the new modern experience shows up on all devices, the new look does work very well in all environments. Gone are the days of smashing as much content into a page as possible. The single column experience really is the easiest way to present information so that it will work in any device scenario. Scrolling is now the norm and users should be used to freely moving around vertically to find information.
About two years ago we had testers from our company and customers test out a website setup that was very similar to how the new modern sites/pages are setup. I was extremely nervous but it quickly became obvious that it was the right decision. Content is not king. Simplicity and good styling actually takes precedence over even content, believe it or not, for driving adoption and repeat visitors. Who knew....
- It comes with 1 TB + 500 MB per user....see this: https://support.office.com/en-us/article/SharePoint-Online-software-boundaries-and-limits-8f34ff47-b749-408b-abc0-b605e1f6d498?ui=en-US&rs=en-US&ad=US
Are modern pages rolling out separately? We're a first release tenant (for everyone) and we DO now see the modern home page for groups but don't see any way to create modern pages (within teamsites or groups). We have the option to add lists, libraries and apps, but not pages. Clicking the cog doesn't show an option to add a page either. Also created a new site collection with teamsite under site admin but no ability to create modern pages there either.
Just curious if I'm missing something.
- John_Sanders@Clint
We're currently rolling out to select users within first release (so tenants that selected individual people, not the entire tenant).
We'll move to the next ring of full first release tenants shortly, starting with 10%.- It has been 1 month, how is the rollout progressing?
- According to previous messages, modern Home page is being released first to Office 365 tenants where selective first release is enabled so if that's not your case it could be the reason why you are not getting it yet...this is what's happening for me, I don't have selective first release so I don't have the Groups Hoem page yet
So we're talking about two different releases here with Modern teamsites being one and modern group home pages being a second? That would at least explain why we have one and not the other. What's strange is that we are not on selective first release but are on first release for the entire organization so maybe that limits us getting both. It's clearly a dice roll......
Hey,
Still nothing on new groups for me, but I do have SharePoint Lists and Libraries experience turned to classic despite being first release. Could this be why?
Thanks.
- Dave Cohen (US)
Hi everyone.
We've now enabled the new Modern Pages experience for 'Selected Users' in our First Release program. Please use this thread for feedback as continue to roll out over the next few weeks. Thanks!
-Dave
Initial Thoughts on Modern Pages -- honestly, they're not that far from prime time and more flexible, as far as content (embed and highlighted content add a great deal of flexibility) than I imagined. The biggest issue for me/us is simply this
- The biggest issue, and it's brought on by the lack of branding capabilities (which I know is coming in the future), is the need to be able to change the background like Delve. I'm sure it's coming, but giving us the ability to add some visual variety between different sites and pages is huge. We'd get over lack of branding options with that simple addition.
- SEARCH? Search IS in the new modern pages for groups so why not in modern teamsite pages yet? Consistency is vital.
- Activity feed should have the option to scroll horizontally with arrows. Show 3 or 4, then move one way or another to see more. Give the option of showing only a specific amount on top of that.
- Any thought to giving us a second column to work with? A right column we can pin content to? I suppose that hinders the slide panel and responsiveness.
- Can't hide "Pages" in the quick launch?
- Global navigation is coming I'm sure, but if it takes a while, give us the ability to add a web part to the TOP of the page. I've never understood why team sites don't, at the very least, give us the option to use managed metadata for global nav as an option. Why should I need publishing on to get a global nav?
Again, that simple addition of being able to add an image to the header would be a big step to easing the lack of branding and customization options as we wait for more robust customization options. Still, very impressive start here. Looking forward to more!
I've been testing the new modern pages and I'm very excited for the potential. However I'm disappointed that the amount of web parts in the toolbox is very limited at this time. When this was demoed during the Future of SharePoint event, https://youtu.be/0NyxhMlIGeA?t=3454 , many awesome web parts where in the toolbox, but I don't have access to very many of those web parts now.
Also in the blog post, it appeared I was going to be able to embed a Yammer group on my modern page easily, but I'm not seeing that option.
How soon will the web part toolbox gain more web part choices?
Below is an example of the web part choices I see in the toolbox.
- John_Sanders
EricDavisTech - We turned on the flight to add the Yammer web part to modern pages. It will be rolling out over the next few days.
Thank you!
I can now create new page using the modern authoring canvas ... Will be testing this arvo.
However, is it expected behavior that I still cannot access 'Site Settings' or ' Site contents' from the cog? (it loop back to the Shared Document Folder)
