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KeithLaKey
Copper Contributor
Mar 16, 2022

Gmail less secure apps being locked down

On May 30, 2022 Google is locking down "less secure apps".

See Google's announcement here:

https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/6010255?hl=en

I'm using Outlook 2019, ad use Gmail via Outlook for 95% of my Email traffic.

I would think Microsoft is aware of this. Will using Outlook require a manual 2FA intervention every time a connection is made with Gmail?

 

  • Anne5557788's avatar
    Anne5557788
    Copper Contributor
    Personally I gave up on importing gmail into outlook years ago. Gmail saying they are tough on security is a joke. They pretty much ban VPNs or anything that prevents them from data mining - lol. It became a huge pain having to verify so I keep gmail separate and login from time to time. My work stuff stays separate in outlook.
  • eventempered's avatar
    eventempered
    Copper Contributor

    be warned if you are reading this in June 2022 - there are scammers in this thread phishing / trying to engage people
    they are posting email addresses

    but despite reports to 'moderator' - they continue to masquerade as legitimate users


    and posts (like this) warning others in the community - are being deleted

     

    ....

     

    GOOD NEWS: the solution by the REAL Stewart Goodin WORKS.

    make sure you do the last step = MAIL

    - and go back into settings to allow 'mail' ('windows computer')  in the APPS, after you have gone through the rigmarole of 2 factor authentication.
    - it will 'generate' a "16 digit passcode/password" that hyou then copy and paste into outlook (replacing your own pw)

    (note: don't know if you can just make up your OWN '16 dig pw' ? - who has time or the will to test?)

     

    & in JUNE 2022 - 'allow less secure apps' is redundant/not an option

     

    AFAIK, there's 2 solutions: Stewart's / 2 FACTOR AUTH + MAIL ON THIS PC (16 dig pw)

    or

    another registry something edit - even more complicated / time consuming 

     

    PLEASE send invoices for your time to MICROSOFT.

    or they will never learn.

     

     

    cc: stewartgoodin KeithLaKey Iceman-FL Deleted anthony3220 mikec7 Peter_Rosner Super_Yacht__Capt  
    @ trying to tag MICROSOFT - but nobody home.

     

     

  • anthony3220's avatar
    anthony3220
    Copper Contributor
    Since 30 May 2022, my Outlook 2021 on a Windows 10 Desktop will NOT process any of my GMAIL emails. My current system has worked flawlessly way back to Outlook 2007 without issue. If anyone has found a solution please feel free to share. Thank you.
  • KeithLaKey  I am having the same issue. Unable to use Outlook for gmail accounts and there is no work around that I am aware of. MS needs to step up so that we can still have all of our various emails in one space. Personally I can stand using webmail after using Outlook since its inception.

  • kavinaddy's avatar
    kavinaddy
    Copper Contributor
    Open your Google Admin console (admin.google.com).
    Click Security > Basic settings .
    Under Less secure apps, select Go to settings for less secure apps .
    In the subwindow, select the Enforce access to less secure apps for all users radio button. ...
    Click the Save button.



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  • Iceman-FL's avatar
    Iceman-FL
    Copper Contributor

    RE: My previous post about Google shutting down "less secure apps"

     

    Found a workaround that works.

     

    After changing the POP and SMTP servers from POP/SMTP.GMAIL.Com to POP/SMTP.GoogleMAIL.COM without success, the article said change your Google Password to 16 characters.  Mine was set to 12.

     

    After resetting my password, Outlook began exchanging both POP and SMTP mail. However, it seems like it synced back to when the tablets came off the mountain..... At least my Outlook is working again.

     

    V/r

     

    Retired (or so I thought) I.T. guy

    • CPauC3's avatar
      CPauC3
      Copper Contributor
      Thank you again - it took awhile but I am up and working
  • Iceman-FL's avatar
    Iceman-FL
    Copper Contributor

    I don't know who posted the info, but effective today, my Outlook is no longer recognized when attempting to PO Gmail.

     

    GMAIL no longer has the "Allow Less Secure Apps" option, so the problem is permanent. 

    • Peter_Rosner's avatar
      Peter_Rosner
      Copper Contributor
      Please see the solution that I posted on May 08th at 11:08 AM. My Outlook 2010 is still working fine, so this solution appears to work, at least for me. Disclaimer: I have ZERO tech background. Not an IT person. I use Windows 10 Home Version 21H2. The exact steps might be slightly different for other versions of Windows.
      Peter
      • Iceman-FL's avatar
        Iceman-FL
        Copper Contributor

        I'm using Microsoft Office Professional 2016.  The 2010 solution didn't work.  I've spoken to some former colleagues, and they seem to feel that going to a 16 character password would work across the board.

         

        I've been retired from the I.T. field for 12 years, but just can't seem to get away from problem solving for friends and family.

  • KevinYork's avatar
    KevinYork
    Copper Contributor

    It is the email program itself that does the authentication with a mail server.
    When you setup your email program, it asks a couple questions and setups the email program to connect to an email server.
    And you can go back in and tweak these settings.
    In Outlook, it is under TOOLS>ACCOUNT-SETTINGS.
    Google wants you to use OATH2 authentication.
    OAUTH2 is available in some [but not all] versions of Microsoft Outlook:
    PRODUCT:         OATUH2 authentication:
    Outlook 2007     Not available
    Outlook 2010     Not available
    Outlook 2013     Yes, but disabled by default.
    Outlook 2016     Yes
    Outlook 2019     Yes
    Outlook 365       Yes

    • Peter_Rosner's avatar
      Peter_Rosner
      Copper Contributor

      KevinYork I use Outlook 2010, purchased more than 10 years ago.  Does this mean that it will be impossible to continue using Outlook 2010 with Gmail after May 30, 2022?  Is there any work around? Thanks.

      • KevinYork's avatar
        KevinYork
        Copper Contributor
        That's why I came to this forum... I have the same problem and the same question.
        'Googling'... I did see mentions of workarounds; but not from anyone I trust.
    • Jan_Wijninckx's avatar
      Jan_Wijninckx
      Brass Contributor

      KevinYork 
      You wrote: "In Outlook, it is under TOOLS>ACCOUNT-SETTINGS"

      There is no Tools ribbon, so what do you mean? The backstage i.e. HOME? 
      But if one has pop3 as an account where does one set OATH2?

    • stewartgoodin's avatar
      stewartgoodin
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      unless you set 16 digit passwords less secure apps are required 

       

      Hello my name is Stewart Goodin I have worked in the computer industry since 1982 

       

      I am seeing this problem, less secure apps, already cropping up with TELUS accounts.

       

      First Less secure apps is required to be enabled for accessing GMAIL emails from OUTLOOK 2019 

      this applies to both IMAP and POP access to GMAIL via OUTLOOK 2019 unless you set 16 digit passwords. 

       

      So please if you are responding to questions take the time to read what people have said before you respond

      I am tired of the millennial and the non millennial's attitude of not knowing what you are responding to before you answer.

       

      here is a link to setup a 16 digit password to access your GMAIL account from OUTLOOK 2019 

       

      Sign in with App Passwords - Google Account Help

       

      Here are step by step instructions to accomplish this 

       

      Google Help Center 2-Step Verification > Signing in with 2-Step Verification > Sign in with App Passwords 

       

      Login to GMAIL Account "myaccount.google.com"

      Click on security 

      Enable 2 step verification, you will have to have a cell phone or access to some other device. 

      Now click on the back arrow, Top Left Center of Screen, 

      Having done that now app passwords will appear 

      click on app passwords 

      click on select app and mail 

      click on select device and select windows computer 

      click generate and a 16 digit code will appear #### #### #### #### highlight and copy to clipboard

      go to Microsoft OUTLOOK and paste that code into your password line, you will be prompted for it,

      click on remember and save 

      Your outlook will work fine from now on and you will find less secure apps is all ready disabled

       

      I have tested it and it works fine 

       

      Sincerely 

       

      Stewart Goodin .PAT 

      CEO Stewart IT Services Canada

      • mikec7's avatar
        mikec7
        Copper Contributor
        Thank you stewartgoodin. Also thanks to Peter_Rosner for the clear explanation of how to enter the 16-digit password. Between the two of you, I was successfully able to overcome Google's removal of the "enable less-secure apps" setting by setting an app password. I use Outlook 365 and it's working great again.
    • KeithLaKey's avatar
      KeithLaKey
      Copper Contributor

      Deleted 

      Wow!

      First, I'm NOT fearful.

      Second, I AM seeking evidence or a reasonable response.

      All you have provided is a conclusion with no premises, the equivalent of your "feelings" or "beliefs".

      Providing useless and inaccurate info is very rude of you.

       

      Inaccurate? Yes, for at least a decade, In all of my gmail account's settings, I have been required to set my Outlook access to "less secure sign-in technology". Soon, even this setting will not be enough.

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