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Thick window title bar in office 365 applications
Hello,
My office got updated to 2110 version and with this update something got broken with window title bars in all office apps that I use (Excel, Word... I didn't restart yet OneNote but it'll suffer probably too)... The window title bars are irritating thick/big/wide - whatever to call it. But when I click "File" on ribbon menu the title bar is back to normal - nicely thin/normal.
Is there option to Restore "normal, thin window title bars"?
Check the screenshot - the blue line I draw at edge of the window title bar (you can also see the thickness of window title bar by looking at the highlighted buttons (close and user)).
I have Win10 pro v2004. Office (excel version in example: 2110 )
Or this is because of this ugly Windows 11 looks (this is my personal opinion).
- In the coming soon section in office (which I’ve found to be turned on) this enables this new look. Click on the megaphone on the upper right corner, scroll to the bottom of the page and disable the preview
Coming Soon
Coming Soon gives you an opportunity try new features and share feedback with us before the changes are released to all customers.
Office has a fresh look. It’s modern and new, designed to help you focus on your best work. This new update includes:
:black_medium_small_square:Simple, intuitive, and seamless experience across all your Office apps
:black_medium_small_square:Customizable ribbon that you can change and create shortcuts to everyday commands you use the most
:black_medium_small_square:Office themes that stay in sync with your Windows light or dark mode setting by default
:black_medium_small_square:Share your work and collaborate with others in real time by selecting Share and sending your draft to whomever you want.
Try the new experience
On
Turn on Try the new experience to try it and let us know what you think! We’re listening and are making more improvements based on your feedback.
- yes it is the new look
and yes it is awful, I'm hating it too. Plus it is seriously forcing me to reconsider all my tool bar shortcuts.
Tried to post as separate thread just about it, will copy down below, hope someone reads it, maybe helps me with it.
"Seriously, it is very bad, the new look. It's actually ruining the functionality of my tool bar, big time.
Why can't we have the choice to keep the old look, whenever these "new looks" come up? (same happens in the Xbox consoles UIs). Just PLEASE give us the option to roll back or opt out any time you guys bring up a new look. Is that such a crazy idea? So many software apps to this.
And now this forum system won't let me post this complain. Keeps talking about an autosave. Seriously, not paying your apps any more. Enough with these shenanigans. I could actually ask for my money back every time you ruin something that was working."Yes, I do feel same. MS don't give a cr-p about user, as long they can suck our money (from business they drain even more of it). I had so many times thought :"what an idiot decided about removing/adding some annoyance (a.k.a. feature) and it can't be turned on or off..." (and add some phrases to it that are not written here because they'd break some rules of this forum).
I personally hate how the crapple products looks and works (don't work) too, so seeing this in w11 make me to not like it too, not to mention how they remove some good features for "idiot-proof"... (Yes, I'm in Linux,Android,ATI,AMD camp 😛 ) I won't go into what I think about those requirements of w11 - this is not place for it, nor I feel like writing about it...
But back to ms-office, since 2 or 3 last updates they started to break more and more, I had to disable hardware accel. in excel because when I worked on xls (not xlsx) file it freezed the grid and it's window (I could click cell, edit it, save it using keyboard shortcuts and "memory" (what, where pop-up and in what order), but screen was not refreshed at all (no dialogs shown, no changes, on selection whatsoever) - so I saw still that same "window" from before freeze moment. After closing and reopening excel (and file) I could see those changes...)- In the coming soon section in office (which I’ve found to be turned on) this enables this new look. Click on the megaphone on the upper right corner, scroll to the bottom of the page and disable the preview
Coming Soon
Coming Soon gives you an opportunity try new features and share feedback with us before the changes are released to all customers.
Office has a fresh look. It’s modern and new, designed to help you focus on your best work. This new update includes:
:black_medium_small_square:Simple, intuitive, and seamless experience across all your Office apps
:black_medium_small_square:Customizable ribbon that you can change and create shortcuts to everyday commands you use the most
:black_medium_small_square:Office themes that stay in sync with your Windows light or dark mode setting by default
:black_medium_small_square:Share your work and collaborate with others in real time by selecting Share and sending your draft to whomever you want.
Try the new experience
On
Turn on Try the new experience to try it and let us know what you think! We’re listening and are making more improvements based on your feedback.
- I agree, especially with scarce vertical space in laptops, switch coming soon off to fix the awful thick title bar.
- This new title bar takes up WAAAAAY too much screen real estate.
I just got this update today and I'm amazed at how terrible it is. I had specifically opted out the new redesign but I guess the button switched itself back on because that's how software is these days! Absolutely unacceptable. I'm not sure if anyone here noticed the new Outlook design but **** it's so horrible and robs you of screen space! I don't get it. These are business programs. Why do they have to change the design so radically and make it so unbearably ugly and impractical? We just want to do work nobody cares about the design as long as it looks somewhat ok and works!
This new Windows 11 design language is terrible. At least Windows 10's touch-screen-friendly design is passable because A) it actually looks decent B) that blocky design fits well on desktop programs
Like on outlook there's a new curved design bar on the left where you select your accounts that robs like 1/3 of the space there. WHY?
I swear to god Microsoft wants to kill off their own products and wants us to switch to MacOS and Linux, there's no other explanation.
- That looks like the "touch-optimized" UI. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/turn-touch-mode-on-or-off-90e162b1-44f9-434f-bc2b-9321c989ea6e
VasilMichevOffice365 updated on my PC today. I have mouse mode enabled (and have flicked between mouse/touch to test). The new title bar seems double thickness in any mode and looks infantile (and takes up more space). I only came across this post searching for how to get the title bar back to a normal standard thickness.
- bro that's not the case, whatever I switch between the touch/mouse UI, it's the same, freakly thick...
- I just got a new laptop with Windows 11. I am also seeing the extra thick title bar on all Office apps. I really dislike this change. It is especially bad because the office title bar is now thicker (has more height) then all the other Windows 11 apps. So this change which was supposed to make it more visually consistent with Windows 11 actually makes it less so.
Microsoft please provide an option to go back to the narrower title bar. The extra space isn't even used for anything so it would not even change anything about the application. - Thanks for looking into this. This has been driving me crazy for the last few days.
yay for new features I guess.. 😕 - I don't think Microsoft will even look at this issue. I measured the title bar and is double the size of the old one.
Anyway I just googled (hehe) and it seems that is only us 18 people that have this issue.
By disabling the "Coming soon" I got the smaller title bar in Word, but not on Outlook.
There are also other "improvements" that make it actually worse for business use 😞- Correct. It is now Aug-22 and the stupidly thick title bars are still there. Microsoft obviously too arrogant and lazy to be bothered with this issue.
The_Doctor
As I told in December, nobody from MS will look or change anything...
Anyway, now is even worse as the "big bar" is creeping into other applications such as Edge...
And in Windows 11 in almost all apps (such as Windows Explorer etc).
Has anyone else noticed that the "new" Outlook title bar is only 58 pixels high while all other office applications (Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Teams, and even "legacy" Outlook) are 59 pixels in high? I frequently have Teams and Excel open in separate windows on an ultrawide monitor with no bezel to interfere with the separate windows and it's so unpleasant to look at. I'm sorry if I'm making you see something you can no longer unsee but I had to get the opinion of others.
Przemyslaw W,
Solution is reg hack.
to Disable thick title
save the following in a .reg file close all office apps and run this reg,Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Office\16.0\Common\ExperimentConfigs\ExternalFeatureOverrides\powerpoint] "Microsoft.Office.UXPlatform.FluentSVRefresh"="false" "Microsoft.Office.UXPlatform.FluentSVRibbonOptionsMenu"="false" "Microsoft.Office.UXPlatform.RibbonTouchOptimization"="false" [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Office\16.0\Common\ExperimentConfigs\ExternalFeatureOverrides\excel] "Microsoft.Office.UXPlatform.FluentSVRefresh"="false" "Microsoft.Office.UXPlatform.FluentSVRibbonOptionsMenu"="false" "Microsoft.Office.UXPlatform.RibbonTouchOptimization"="false" [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Office\16.0\Common\ExperimentConfigs\ExternalFeatureOverrides\word] "Microsoft.Office.UXPlatform.FluentSVRefresh"="false" "Microsoft.Office.UXPlatform.FluentSVRibbonOptionsMenu"="false" "Microsoft.Office.UXPlatform.RibbonTouchOptimization"="false"Hi all,
I've been using the mentioned registry keys for months successfully.
However, following last update (v2406 build 17722.20206 - my license has monthly Enterprise update channel), they seem not to be working anymore. The ugly super thick title bar has come back. Reg entries are still there, but to no effect.
[...].FluentSVRefresh "false" still changes the Office apps splash screen from Fluent to "classic", but doesn't affect the ribbon anymore.
Is there any chance to have the classic thin look back or is it gone forever?
Thank you!- Hi there,
I've been using the regkey trick for months. Now, following update to v2406 forced by Enterprise update channel, the title bar has gone back to its obnoxious thickness and the regkey (which is still there) doesn't change it back to classic thin size.
"Microsoft.Office.UXPlatform.FluentSVRefresh" "false" changes the look of the splash screen only, not the title bar height anymore.
Help! Is there any other way to have the thin title bar back again or is it gone forever?
