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Using email for 365 connected yammer group?
Ah, got you. I had to do some testing though so sorry for the delay.
You may have missed a part out in terms of Yammer. This is because there are Yammer Groups and Office 365 Connected Yammer Groups. Its not immediately clear how to get these so I will explain.
1.) Go into Yammer admin panel via Office 365/Microsoft 365 admin centre
2.) Go to Security settings under Content.
3.) You must ensure that under Office 365 Identity Enforcement that this is ticked and saved. This enables Office 365 Connected Yammer Groups
Now when you create a new Yammer group it'll create an Office 365 group with an address of groupname@yourdomain.com. This will create the Office 365 group, the distribution list in Exchange off the back of that, it'll show up in the address book.
However it is important to point out the follow limitations. 1.) Even if you connect Yammer Groups to Office 365 groups you still have to use the @ yammer.com when emailing Yammer groups. That is the way its designed. 2.) You cannot create Teams in Microsoft Teams based on Yammer connected Office 365 Groups as discussed here: https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/Microsoft-Teams/Is-it-the-case-that-a-Group-started-in-Yammer-cannot-get-Teams/td-p/143490. These are big limitations.
There is talk of Microsoft 'groupifying' everything (https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/Yammer/Yammer-Integration-with-office-365-group/td-p/147240) but this is in development with no official confirmation or timeframe.
So my advice is that you will need to use these guidelines to how best you work and create groups. In my own experience most organisations use Office 365 Groups built through the admin centre for email distribution and which they base their Microsoft Teams on since organisations tend to use Teams far more. Yammer groups in this scenario are separate because technically, Yammer is and always has been a more distant app from the rest of the stack. At present, there is nothing to unify them all however all the applications are converging.
Hope this clarifies things, or at least allows you to make a decision on how you want to proceed.
Best, Chris
Hi again Chris,
Yes, it's all been set up like that. As soon as I started a Yammer group, I got the 365 group, sharepoint site, Onenote etc. But, as I wrote, I see the email address in the group admin, but nothing happens when I mail it. They do show in the address book though, which is going to be utterly confusing.
"This will create the Office 365 group, the distribution list in Exchange off the back of that, it'll show up in the address book. "
- Got it.
I think this article will solve it.
https://richardjgreen.net/sending-email-office-365-group-members/
If you are not in the group, and both of the tabs in the article are turned off, the email wouldn’t get there.
Let me know how it goes.
Best, ChrisI set up all of the groups, so for now I'm a member of all groups.
The outside organization is set to true.
The other one, I can't change?
I set it in 365 admin, click save, when I open it again it's disabled.
If I try to do it in exchange admin i get this:
I think this has to do with the fact that it's a 365 enabled yammer group. Just sucks that I'll have to make a SECOND group for each team to be able to use email. And since the "groupname@intranet.domain.com" is taken it's going to be "groupname1@...", which will also show up in the address book. Try convincing my users that this is a nice system... Gaaah.
- I see.
In that case I would advise the following - I would test creating an Office 365 group from the Admin Centre. I would set it per the article above to ensure mail routing works and create a Team from it. If that works out I would personally create the Office 365 groups, not Office 365 Yammer Groups. Then its simply two groups to manage whilst allowing you the email functionality. This is the best of the worst scenario until Microsoft further unify it down the line, and will be the least administration
Best, Chris