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Is it the case that a Group started in Yammer cannot get Teams?

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Rob O'Keefe
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We have an O365 Group that started in Yammer a year or more ago. Now we want that group to have Teams for smaller discussions in Channels within the Team. Is there any way to add Teams to a Group that started in Yammer?

Rob.

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If the Yammer Group has an Office 365 Group (that's the case If I understand correctly your scenario), then you should be able to create a Team based on that Group

Can you test it? None of our Yammer initiated Groups show up in the Teams dropdown when I pick add Team to an existing Group. It only shows the Groups initiated elsewhere.

Yammer groups are missing some kind of mailbox/exchange component to them so you cannot setup Teams to a Yammer created group. 

Mmm...not sure about the missing EXO piece you mention..I could agree if you select Yammer as container for the conversations, but if you are creating a Group behind the scenes the EXO part should be present...as per this support article you can choose to store conversation for the Group in EXO or in Yammer: https://support.office.com/en-us/article/yammer-and-office-365-groups-d8c239dc-a48b-47ab-b85e-6b4b81... But as I have said, to me no matter where you store the conversations you are supposed to get a full Group. @Rob O'Keefe I will try to test your scenario in my corporate tenant and come back with the results

They are different this has come up in the past. For whatever reason Yammer connected groups are not the same as other groups.
but yeah, why it doesn't work I'm not exactly sure :). I'm probably wrong on the missing peice, I just know you can't connect Teams to Yammer created groups!

Reading again the support article you might be right since it says the following: Over time, your groups experience will also include a shared calendar. So if shared calendar is missed, the Inbox is missed too. Adding @Tony Redmond and @Darrell Webster to comment on this topic...by the way @Rob O'Keefe just verified that "Groups" created from Yammer are not eligible in Teams for creating a Team

Solution

When you create a new Yammer group and use Office 365 groups to manage its identity and membership, a group mailbox is provisioned to hold the group calendar (just like "Outlook" groups and Teams). However, the conversation functionality is in Yammer and remains in Yammer. There is no way to connect Yammer groups to Teams so that some conversations are in Teams and others are in Yammer.

 

End of story...


@Tony Redmond wrote:

When you create a new Yammer group and use Office 365 groups to manage its identity and membership, a group mailbox is provisioned to hold the group calendar (just like "Outlook" groups and Teams). 


Is this something I chose? Is there some alternative to this?

There is no Yammer option to have Teams included, You have to have a separate group that ties in to Teams you can never have Yammer and Teams on the same group.

You can have an external "Yammer group" not 365 group that doesn't integrate to Office 365 groups like above. But there is no option you can take to get your desired result currently.

Basically, Teams has no link to Yammer (apart from creating a tab in a channel to point to the URL for a Yammer group). The two apps live in different worlds. Yammer has long maintained a considerable distance from the rest of Office 365. While Microsoft started to bring Yammer into the fold by linking it to Office 365 Groups (https://www.petri.com/the-rebirth-of-yammer-groups), there are still many issues to be solved, like integration with search, compliance, classification labels, and so on. The gap between Yammer and Teams is just further evidence.

 

The bottom line is that if you want to implement Yammer, you do so in the full knowledge of its strengths and weaknesses, as you do with any app. Yammer is excellent at hosting large networks of people, including those outside the organization. Teams is much better dealing with small workgroups.

Thanks @Tony Redmond, I get it. I just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something.

 

One part that seems inconsistent then is that all Yammer groups get Planners. We have a ton of Planners now that sprung out of Yammer groups (see my other thread: https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/Planner/Hiding-Yammer-Group-generated-Plans-which-are-not-Pla...)

 

 

If have enforced Office 365 Identity for Yammer users, new Yammer groups will be "Yammer connected Office 365 Groups."
The general rule is that the conversation platform (Yammer, Teams, Outlook) is determined by where you create the Office 365 Group from. If you created it from Yammer, you will use Yammer for conversations.
However, the relationship between Teams and Outlook groups differ to a Yammer Office 365 group. If you create an Outlook group, you can create a Team and connect to the existing Outlook group. If you create Team, the Outlook group is also created and available to use from Outlook. Yammer really is on the outer-loop in this case.

FYI, Starting this week, Yammer will begin rolling out the group types in Yammer feature, according to MC 126819: 


The group types map to the value proposition of Yammer. These group types are:

Nouns to describe the group’s type and membership

  • - My Organization
  • - Community
  • - Project

Verbs to describe the primary actions in the group

  • - Inform & Discuss
  • -Connect & Learn
  • - Plan & Work

FYI, Starting this week, Yammer will begin rolling out the group types in Yammer feature, according to MC 126819: 


The group types map to the value proposition of Yammer. These group types are:

Nouns to describe the group’s type and membership

  • My Organization
  • Community
  • Project

Verbs to describe the primary actions in the group

  • Inform & Discuss
  • Connect & Learn
  • Plan & Work

yes, that is something you choose on the Yammer Admin Security Settings page. 


@Darrell Webster wrote:

The general rule is that the conversation platform (Yammer, Teams, Outlook) is determined by where you create the Office 365 Group from. If you created it from Yammer, you will use Yammer for conversations.


Yes, for my case these Yammer groups were created 2 years ago and many of them are more company social. So having an O365 Group automatically spawned was not desirable. 

 

I appreciate all the answers in this thread that Teams and Yammer cannot coexist in the same Group. We will just make a similarly named new Team.

 

 

 

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