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Date format error issue

PLEASE HELP. I'd like to use "datedif" function, but for no apparent reason, I can't seem to get a result. For example, I want to see the difference between 3/30/2022 and 3/21/2022 in terms of ...
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    Jan 21, 2020

    ikjadoon gardenvv290 Elliot Kirk 

     

    So I just noticed in Edge Version 81.0.396.0 (Official build) canary (64-bit), you can actually turn any page or better say, any content in a web page, into immersive reader (reading view) mode.

     

    even though there are many web pages that don't have the required tags to trigger the immersive reader button to show up on Edge, now you can highlight or select a specific part of a web page such as texts or images, or just press CTRL + A to select everything and then right-click and choose "open in immersive reader".

     

     

     

    this is useful in 2 cases

    1.  on pages that you can already use immersive reader button because it shows up at top on the address bar but you only want to have some of the parts of the page in immersive reader mode.
    2.  on pages that don't support immersive reader at all, you can select all of the page or only parts of it and turn them into immersive reader mode.

     

    This is a great feature added, Thanks for listening to the feedback, that's exactly what I was looking for.

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I'd like to use \"datedif\" function, but for no apparent reason, I can't seem to get a result. For example, I want to see the difference between 3/30/2022 and 3/21/2022 in terms of ...","body@stringLength":"997","rawBody":"


PLEASE HELP.

I'd like to use \"datedif\" function, but for no apparent reason, I can't seem to get a result.
For example, I want to see the difference between 3/30/2022 and 3/21/2022 in terms of \"days.\"
So I used \"DATEDIF\" function as follows:

Type 1: =DATEDIF(A12,H12,\"D\") --> #VALUE!

3/21/2022 3/30/2022

This time, I changed the date format by showing year first and even changed the slashes (/)
to the hiphens (-) and it worked.

Type 2: =DATEDIF(A18,H18,\"D\") --> 9

2022-03-21 2022-03-30

MY QUESTION, THEN, IS WHY TYPE 1 DOESN'T WORK?

I asked this because I have thousands of cells in my workbooks with dates expressed as in Type 1
and I can't seem to change the date formats to Type 2 to use the DATEDIF function at all.

Thanks in advance.

 

Sorry for the no uploaded workbook, as I couldn't find a way to upload the file in this site. 

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PLEASE HELP.

I'd like to use \"datedif\" function, but for no apparent reason, I can't seem to get a result.
For example, I want to see the difference between 3/30/2022 and 3/21/2022 in terms of \"days.\"
So I used \"DATEDIF\" function as follows:

Type 1: =DATEDIF(A12,H12,\"D\") --> #VALUE!

3/21/2022 3/30/2022

This time, I changed the date format by showing year first and even changed the slashes (/)
to the hiphens (-) and it worked.

Type 2: =DATEDIF(A18,H18,\"D\") --> 9

2022-03-21 2022-03-30

MY QUESTION, THEN, IS WHY TYPE 1 DOESN'T WORK?

I asked this because I have thousands of cells in my workbooks with dates expressed as in Type 1
and I can't seem to change the date formats to Type 2 to use the DATEDIF function at all.

Thanks in advance.

 

Sorry for the no uploaded workbook, as I couldn't find a way to upload the file in this site. 

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hotsurf 

Whether month or day comes first in a date is very important when you are working with the dates. When you type the date in Excel, the sequence of day and moth must always be the same as your operation system date format. Year can be first or last only by typing. If you want to see year in the middle, you need to apply custom format like \"dd yyy mm\" or \"mm yyy dd\".

3/21/2022 3/30/2022 is month and day sequence, ignoring year.
2022-03-21 2022-03-30 is the same as above. 

It should work the same for both if the dates are correct date formats.
WHY TYPE 1 DOESN'T WORK? And you got value error #value for the first one.

That means the date is wrong and it is not the date format and has no value.
As Mr. Peter has explained your date may not be actual date format and it may be text format that represents or looks like the date or it may be text only with wrongly typed date and month sequence.

If the date is text format with correct sequence, you may use Datevalue or Value function to convert text to actual date format like below.

Datevalue(\"3/30/2022\") or Value(\"3/30/2022\")

Datevalue(\"3/21/2022\") or Value(\"3/21/2022\")

If the date are wrongly typed in day and month sequence, you may need to use Left, Right, Mid Functions to swap day and month correctly as per the system date. 

The syntax of Datedif function is as below.
=Datedif(start_date, end_date, interval_unit)

*StartDate must be minimmum date.

*EndDate must be maximum date.

 

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Whether month or day comes first in a date is very important when you are working with the dates. When you type the date in Excel, the sequence of day and moth must always be the same as your operation system date format. Year can be first or last only by typing. If you want to see year in the middle, you need to apply custom format like \"dd yyy mm\" or \"mm yyy dd\".

3/21/2022 3/30/2022 is month and day sequence, ignoring year.
2022-03-21 2022-03-30 is the same as above. 

It should work the same for both if the dates are correct date formats.
WHY TYPE 1 DOESN'T WORK? And you got value error #value for the first one.

That means the date is wrong and it is not the date format and has no value.
As Mr. Peter has explained your date may not be actual date format and it may be text format that represents or looks like the date or it may be text only with wrongly typed date and month sequence.

If the date is text format with correct sequence, you may use Datevalue or Value function to convert text to actual date format like below.

Datevalue(\"3/30/2022\") or Value(\"3/30/2022\")

Datevalue(\"3/21/2022\") or Value(\"3/21/2022\")

If the date are wrongly typed in day and month sequence, you may need to use Left, Right, Mid Functions to swap day and month correctly as per the system date. 

The syntax of Datedif function is as below.
=Datedif(start_date, end_date, interval_unit)

*StartDate must be minimmum date.

*EndDate must be maximum date.

 

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been turned off for this event"},"localOverride":false},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3272293":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3272293","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3272293":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","uid":3272293,"id":"message:3272293","revisionNum":1,"author":{"__ref":"User:user:1348088"},"readOnly":false,"repliesCount":2,"depth":2,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:ExcelGeneral"},"parent":{"__ref":"AcceptedSolutionMessage:message:3271759"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3271582"},"subject":"Re: Date format error issue","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3272293"},"body":"By the way, may I ask in detail how to use Left/Right/Mid functions if I want to pull year in front of month and day? That way, I feel like I might have a shot at the datedif function. A little issue I face when I tried this was: What do I have to do when the month and the day come in single or double digits? For example:

If I use RIGHT function to pull out the year, I can go ahead and use =RIGHT(referred cell, 4). But what about the 3/30/? When the month changes to 12/30, then I have to change the LEFT function to =LEFT(referred cell,1,2). If I'd like to reflect this year swap onto all the past years, what blanket method can I use, regardless of the month digits (or day digits, for that matter)? You see my point?

Many thanks indeed.
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Only4DigitYear = RIGHT(TextDate, 4)
AnyDigitYear =TRIM(RIGHT(SUBSTITUTE(TextDate,\"/\",REPT(\" \",5)),5))
Month =TRIM(MID(SUBSTITUTE(I14,\"/\",REPT(\" \",5)),5,5))
Day =LEFT(TextDate, FIND(\"/\",TextDate)-1)

To get the actual Date value, the formula can be written as below.
Date=DATE(TRIM(RIGHT(SUBSTITUTE(TextDate,\"/\",REPT(\" \",5)),5)),LEFT(TextDate, FIND(\"/\",TextDate)-1),TRIM(MID(SUBSTITUTE(TextDate,\"/\",REPT(\" \",5)),5,5)))","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":1,"postTime":"2022-03-30T23:16:16.813-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2022-03-30T23:16:16.813-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":12670},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:microsoft365/category:products-services/category:communities/community:gxcuf89792board:ExcelGeneral/message:3271582/message:3272330","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[{"__typename":"MessageEdge","cursor":"MjUuM3wyLjF8aXwxfDEzMjowfGludCwzMjcyNjQ3LDMyNzI2NDc","node":{"__ref":"ForumReplyMessage:message:3272647"}}]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3272647":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3272647","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3272647":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:1348088"},"id":"message:3272647","revisionNum":1,"uid":3272647,"depth":4,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:ExcelGeneral"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumReplyMessage:message:3272330"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3271582"},"subject":"Re: Date format error issue","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3272647"},"body":"Dear Starrysky1988,

I am extremely surprised that I can get this kind of expert advice this fast. I tried the formula and reference it to the relevent \"textdate\" cell and it worked! My sincere and humble gratitude to you!

A few notes, though:
1. The formulae above works perfect, but it sure is out of my ability to recreate something like it on my own. I must study them very closely going forward.
2. How come cell formatting wouldn't work? My thinking is that if I change the textdate cell to a date format from text, the complex formulae you kindly worked out wouldn't be needed in the first place.

Thanks anyway for your kind reply.

Frustrated Still.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2022-03-31T06:34:41.756-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2022-03-31T06:34:41.756-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":12577},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:microsoft365/category:products-services/category:communities/community:gxcuf89792board:ExcelGeneral/message:3271582/message:3272647","customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3272180":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3272180","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3272180":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:1348088"},"id":"message:3272180","revisionNum":1,"uid":3272180,"depth":2,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:ExcelGeneral"},"parent":{"__ref":"AcceptedSolutionMessage:message:3271759"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3271582"},"subject":"Re: Date format error issue","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3272180"},"body":"Thank you, very much for the wonderful advice, Starrysky1988.

However, I find that the cells show they are correctly formatted. In the seemingly wrongly formatted cells, changing the location of the years (3/21/2022 --> 2022/3/21; 3/30/2022 --> 2022/3/30) makes the DATEDIF formula work, which is a big question mark for me. I tried the datevalue/value functions as you advised, but they simply didn't work. What do you suspect I did wrong?
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