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Another issue with BYROW

I have found the the following formula, doesn't provide the correct result:   =BYROW(SEQUENCE(2), LAMBDA(i, SUM(INDEX({1,2;3,4},i,))))   If I use implicit intersection operator @ it works, for ...
  • Hi shawn_fielding ,

     

    The file experience does not have a direct correlation to that of working directly within a Document Library granted but it is getting better all of the time and the conversational element and the co authoring all under one roof can make for a valuable proposition.

     

    However if one is looking for true records management then Teams may not be the destination and it is OK to say no sometimes and maybe just look directly to SharePoint Online or elsewhere. And with Teams being Teams you would know doubt be able to surface any effort spent elsewhere within Teams.

     

    I would like to point out as one example however as shown below:

    You can add in additional metadata columns and have them visible in Teams. I could also directly within Excel in this example, update the metadata text column, so I pretty much did not leave Teams, other than going into the respective Office Application and I would now have that bit of metadata to sort, filter and search on.

     

    You can also just go directly into SharePoint and use it in all of its glory by clicking on Open in SharePoint, although depending on the experience of your users this may open up a whole can of worms or not.

     

    As for Lifecycle, retention and deletion etc. You can look to things like Group Lifecycle Policies. Or use Security and Compliance features such as Retention/Disposition Policies. You could also set labels.

     

    You can as you have said reference another document library that could be configured as desired and have it appear as a folder in situ alongside other Channel content.

     

    Thanks

     

    Henry

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I have found the the following formula, doesn't provide the correct result:

 

=BYROW(SEQUENCE(2), LAMBDA(i, SUM(INDEX({1,2;3,4},i,))))

 

If I use implicit intersection operator @ it works, for example:

 

=BYROW(SEQUENCE(2), LAMBDA(i, SUM(INDEX({1,2;3,4},@i,))))

 

replacing in both cases BYROW with MAP it works. I found out that if I use CHOOSEROWS, it works with and without @ operator:

 

=BYROW(SEQUENCE(2), LAMBDA(i, SUM(CHOOSEROWS({1,2;3,4},i))))

 

Is there any explanation to the above formulas, other than a bug or some specification that hasn't been documented properly?

 

Note: The samples here, shows the issue using BYROW, but using BYCOL produces similar results.

 

Thanks

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I have found the the following formula, doesn't provide the correct result:

 

=BYROW(SEQUENCE(2), LAMBDA(i, SUM(INDEX({1,2;3,4},i,))))

 

If I use implicit intersection operator @ it works, for example:

 

=BYROW(SEQUENCE(2), LAMBDA(i, SUM(INDEX({1,2;3,4},@i,))))

 

replacing in both cases BYROW with MAP it works. I found out that if I use CHOOSEROWS, it works with and without @ operator:

 

=BYROW(SEQUENCE(2), LAMBDA(i, SUM(CHOOSEROWS({1,2;3,4},i))))

 

Is there any explanation to the above formulas, other than a bug or some specification that hasn't been documented properly?

 

Note: The samples here, shows the issue using BYROW, but using BYCOL produces similar results.

 

Thanks

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davidleal 

\n

Since you use BYROW() each element of SEQUENCE(2) is passed to lambda as an array, i.e. it will be like

\n
INDEX( {1,2;3,4},{i},)
\n

To return entire row in this case you shall use column numbers as array as well

\n
=INDEX({1,2;3,4},{1},{1,2})
\n

MAP() returns single value of the array element, thus it works.

\n

With BYROW() - yes, we need to transform an array to single value, as \"@i\" or INDEX(i,1,1). 

\n

 

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\n

Since you use BYROW() each element of SEQUENCE(2) is passed to lambda as an array, i.e. it will be like

\nINDEX( {1,2;3,4},{i},)\n

To return entire row in this case you shall use column numbers as array as well

\n=INDEX({1,2;3,4},{1},{1,2})\n

MAP() returns single value of the array element, thus it works.

\n

With BYROW() - yes, we need to transform an array to single value, as \"@i\" or INDEX(i,1,1). 

\n

 

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SergeiBaklan thanks for your response, without being able to debug what is really happening internally it is difficult to understand what is going on.

 

For example you said that BYROW passes each element as an array and the INDEX function, when rows/columns are indicated as an array, then the other argument should be provided too because using the default values (, or ,0) don't work. Correct? That is why with @-operator works because you cast the array to a scalar value and then default value works on the other argument. Interesting. I didn't know that, because this behavior, when row_num or col_num are arrays, is not explained in  INDEX documentation.

 

Another curiosity about this issue with BYROW, if you enter the following commands: F2 and then F9 on the formula of my question it shows the result will be {3;7}, but then the result is not this one. So the evaluation is not the same as the final result.

 

Thanks again for your response,

 

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davidleal 

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Yes, BYROW() always passes to lambda entire row, i.e. array of elements. Even if that's only one value it is not auto converted into single value.

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Yes, how INDEX() works with arrays of rows/columns is not documented directly. Some explanation is in Can Excel's INDEX function return array? - Stack Overflow and in related links, includes trick with N(IF(..)) which JosWoolley mentioned. But that all is for pred-DA Excel, behaviour in modern Excel is bit different. N() in it also returns an array.

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I'm not sure how exactly INDEX() works with array/columns elements, at least not to explain in details. And the most interesting question is why F9 evaluates result correctly. Perhaps JoeMcDaid or someone else from the team could give more details.

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