Jan 12 2024 01:19 PM - edited Jan 12 2024 01:20 PM
Feedback from a long time patcher here:
The manner in which this particular update has been handled has been poor in my opinion. The update is only being pushed out to Windows update or Windows update for business and is not on the Microsoft catalog nor WSUS. So this update has been pushed to machines that I would call "lightly" managed or "unmanaged". Some of these impacted machines have no TPM chip nor do they have bitlocker installed so the need for this update is nil.
The communication thus far has been to instruct us to manually attempt to resize partitions which are not easy to do for anyone, and particularly not for a lot of machines. There are few tools that I can see that let us know if we're going to hit this issue other than to attempt to install and see if it fails. The PowerShell script is not something I'd have my 95 Dad want to do to his machine, let alone me wanting to do it to a bunch of machines at the office.
We're now at Friday, right before patching weekend and may I request a lot more communication and perhaps someone going back and adding in detection into the patch to at least not attempt to install on machines that have no tpm chip and do not have bitlocker installed. These machines are not at risk.
What you are asking your Microsoft patchers to do with this update is not acceptable and not attainable by your Windows 10 patching audience.
Jan 12 2024 03:09 PM
Jan 13 2024 01:38 AM
Jan 13 2024 03:34 AM
@Arto_Montonen I deleted partition 3 which was WinRE. I created a new NTFS partition without name and drive letter via Windows Disk Management. In the CMD window, I changed the partition ID number. I using the disk part program, when the correct disk and partition have been selected. The ID number can be viewed with the det part command and the set part 27 command sets the ID number, which is the recovery ID partition number of the MBR disk. After that, WinRE starts pointing to disk 0 and partition 3 again when I enable WinRE function again.
Jan 13 2024 04:00 AM
Jan 13 2024 05:19 AM
Jan 14 2024 11:12 AM
@SusanBradleyGeek I do not have BitLocker installed, so don't even need the patch. I do have 522MB free space on my Partition Drive, which ought to be more than ample. Still no successful install.
Jan 21 2024 01:36 AM - edited Jan 21 2024 02:09 AM
I agree.
I managed to repair the partitions manually with the diskpart program and Microsoft's MBR disk instruction is incorrect and leads to errors, but the GPT disk instruction works. Microsoft made a mistake when it combined the instructions for MBR and GPT disks into one instruction, it led to errors in the MBR disk instruction. Formatting works differently on MBR and GPT disks.
Jan 21 2024 02:13 AM
This is my suggestion (ignore this error)!
Re: Failure to install update error: 0x80070643 @allmembers - Microsoft Community Hub
Jan 21 2024 09:22 AM - edited Jan 21 2024 09:27 AM
This is my way to fix that problem.
I know disk and partition numbers. Disk is number 0 and partition is numeber 3 in my case. That is what I need when i do fix to the revovery partition fix with command prompt and admistrator rights.
C:\Windows\system32>reagentc /disable
REAGENTC.EXE: Operation Successful.
C:\Windows\system32>diskpart
Microsoft DiskPart version 10.0.19041.3636
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation.
On computer: YOUR-PC
DISKPART> sel disk 0
Disk 0 is now the selected disk.
DISKPART> sel part 3
Partition 3 is now the selected partition.
DISKPART> det part
Partition 3
Type : 27
Hidden: No
Active: No
Offset in Bytes: 255269535744
Volume ### Ltr Label Fs Type Size Status Info
---------- --- ----------- ----- ---------- ------- --------- --------
* Volume 3 Windows RE NTFS Partition 759 MB Healthy Hidden
DISKPART> delete partition override
DISKPART> create partition primary id=27
DiskPart succeeded in creating the specified partition.
DISKPART> format quick fs=ntfs label="Windows RE tools"
100 percent completed
DiskPart successfully formatted the volume.
DISKPART> det part
Partition 3
Type : 07 <- ALERT!. PATITION NUMNER IS 7 NOT 27 WTF!
Hidden: No
ctive: No
Offset in Bytes: 255269535744
Volume ### Ltr Label Fs Type Size Status Info
---------- --- ----------- ----- ---------- ------- --------- --------
* Volume 3 Windows RE NTFS Partition 759 MB Healthy
DISKPART> set id=27 <- PARTITION NUMBER IS FIXED!
DiskPart successfully set the partition ID.
DISKPART> det part
Partition 3
Type : 27
Hidden: No
Active: No
Offset in Bytes: 255269535744
Volume ### Ltr Label Fs Type Size Status Info
---------- --- ----------- ----- ---------- ------- --------- --------
* Volume 3 Windows RE NTFS Partition 759 MB Healthy Hidden
DISKPART> list part
Partition ### Type Size Offset
------------- ---------------- ------- -------
Partition 1 Primary 50 MB 1024 KB
Partition 2 Primary 237 GB 51 MB
* Partition 3 Recovery 759 MB 237 GB
DISKPART> exit
Leaving DiskPart...
C:\Windows\system32>reagentc /enable <- Windows start copying rocovery boot files place where reagentc /info status pointing. That is not easy to expalain, but i think i hit correct point.
Jan 21 2024 09:43 AM
The current version of Windows10 = 19045.3930 , so it seems that your system is outdated , can you explain that?
I'm not wasting my time on this mistake, I've already explained why. I don't recommend your steps.
Jan 27 2024 02:34 PM
Good source for a "fix" - or, how to block the update until Microsoft actually fixes it.
https://www.askwoody.com/2024/quick-video-to-showcase-how-to-hide-kb5034441/
which points to the tool (from microsoft) found here: https://blockapatch.com/
Jan 30 2024 08:15 PM
Jan 31 2024 02:04 AM
Jan 31 2024 04:33 AM
My Windows 10 Pro is not outdated? The version is the same 19045.3930 and there is no error because the size of the recovery partition is 759MB.
I updated one version of Windows 10 Home PC last week and it didn't get stuck with this error. The user had forgotten the windows PIN code and claimed it was 0000, but that is no longer allowed by Microsoft. I found the e-mail address and password of his Microsoft account, which I used to change the new PIN code. His computer hadn't been used for over 6 to 12 months because logging into Windows 10 Home didn't work. The Windows PIN code can be changed if Microsoft account email address and password have been written down on a piece of paper.
Jan 31 2024 07:32 AM
Interesting - Windows10 Home doesn't have -> BitLocker.
Feb 04 2024 01:59 AM
I've found the easiest and safest workaround for Windows RE update problem is to (1) disable Windows RE, (2) change the Windows RE partition type from "Recovery" to "Primary", (3) enable Windows RE, apply the update, then repeat the first three steps, changing the partition type back to "Recovery". You don't need to resize or delete partitions.
WARNING: The steps below involve making changes to your hard disk's partition table. Any misstep could render your system unbootable and potentially result in data loss. This may not work for everyone. Stop if your results at any step are inconsistent with those shown below. Proceed at your own risk.
From an elevated PowerShell prompt, use reagentc to check the current Windows RE state.
PS> reagentc /info
...
Windows RE status: Enabled
Windows RE location: \\?\GLOBALROOT\device\harddisk0\partition4\Recovery\WindowsRE
The Windows RE status should show Enabled. Make note of the hard disk and partition number.
Disable Windows RE.
PS> reagentc /disable
This should move Windows RE image file Winre.wim from \Recovery\WindowsRE on the hidden partition to C:\Windows\System32\Recovery.
IMPORTANT: This doesn't appear to occur in every case. Verify that Winre.wim exists in C:\Windows\System32\Recovery. If it doesn't, reenable Windows RE with reagentc /enable and stop. This file is normally hidden. Use the -Force parameter with dir (in PowerShell) to see it.
PS> dir C:\Windows\System32\Recovery -Force
Directory: C:\Windows\System32\Recovery
Mode LastWriteTime Length Name
---- ------------- ------ ----
-a--- 2/4/2024 3:37 AM 1139 ReAgent.xml
---hs- 8/6/2021 8:26 PM 440718104 Winre.wim
Use diskpart to temporarily change the type of the recovery partition. Select the disk and partition using the numbers in the Windows RE location shown above.
PS> diskpart
DISKPART> select disk 0
Disk 0 is now the selected disk.
DISKPART> select partition 4
Partition 4 is now the selected partition.
IMPORTANT: Verify that you've selected the correct partition. The selected partition is marked with an asterisk and should show as type Recovery.
DISKPART> list partition
Partition ### Type Size Offset
------------- ---------------- ------- -------
Partition 1 System 260 MB 1024 KB
Partition 2 Reserved 16 MB 261 MB
Partition 3 Primary 237 GB 277 MB
* Partition 4 Recovery 860 MB 237 GB
Display partition details to show the partition type.
DISKPART> detail partition
Partition 4
Type : de94bba4-06d1-4d40-a16a-bfd50179d6ac
Hidden : Yes
Required: Yes
Attrib : 0X8000000000000001
Offset in Bytes: 255158386688
Volume ### Ltr Label Fs Type Size Status Info
---------- --- ----------- ----- ---------- ------- --------- --------
* Volume 2 Windows RE NTFS Partition 860 MB Healthy Hidden
Change the partition type from Recovery to Primary (normal).
If the type is 27, this is an MBR partition. Set the type to 7.
DISKPART> set id=7 override
If the type is de94bba4-06d1-4d40-a16a-bfd50179d6ac, this is a GPT partition. Set the type to ebd0a0a2-b9e5-4433-87c0-68b6b72699c7.
DISKPART> set id=ebd0a0a2-b9e5-4433-87c0-68b6b72699c7 override
List the partitions to verify that the change was applied.
DISKPART> list partition
Partition ### Type Size Offset
------------- ---------------- ------- -------
Partition 1 System 260 MB 1024 KB
Partition 2 Reserved 16 MB 261 MB
Partition 3 Primary 237 GB 277 MB
* Partition 4 Primary 860 MB 237 GB
Exit diskpart.
DISKPART> exit
When you re-enable Windows RE, if a valid recovery partition isn't available, reagentc will use C:\Recovery\WindowsRE as the location for the recovery image. If a WindowsRE directory already exists in C:\Recovery, rename it.
PS> dir C:\Recovery -Force
Directory: C:\Recovery
Mode LastWriteTime Length Name
---- ------------- ------ ----
d---- 12/2/2020 8:57 PM WindowsRE
d---- 3/20/2022 3:10 AM OEM
-a--- 1/12/2021 4:35 AM 1139 ReAgentOld.xml
PS> ren C:\Recovery\WindowsRE WindowsRE.old -Force
Re-enable Windows RE and confirm that the location has changed. Here, it changed from partition4 to partition3, which, in this case, is the OS partition (C:\).
PS> reagentc /enable
PS> reagentc /info
Windows RE status: Enabled
Windows RE location: \\?\GLOBALROOT\device\harddisk0\partition3\Recovery\WindowsRE
At this point, attempt to apply the Windows Update. Regardless of success or failure, complete the steps below to reverse the changes made above.
PS> reagentc /disable
PS> diskpart
DISKPART> select disk 0
DISKPART> select partition 4
DISKPART> list partition
Partition ### Type Size Offset
------------- ---------------- ------- -------
Partition 1 System 260 MB 1024 KB
Partition 2 Reserved 16 MB 261 MB
Partition 3 Primary 237 GB 277 MB
* Partition 4 Primary 860 MB 237 GB
For GPT partition
DISKPART> set id=de94bba4-06d1-4d40-a16a-bfd50179d6ac override
For MBR Partition
DISKPART> set id=27 override
DISKPART> list partition
Partition ### Type Size Offset
------------- ---------------- ------- -------
Partition 1 System 260 MB 1024 KB
Partition 2 Reserved 16 MB 261 MB
Partition 3 Primary 237 GB 277 MB
* Partition 4 Recovery 860 MB 237 GB
DISKPART> exit
PS> reagentc /enable
...
Windows RE status: Enabled
Windows RE location: \\?\GLOBALROOT\device\harddisk0\partition4\Recovery\WindowsRE
Feb 07 2024 04:51 PM
Disabling Bitlocker seems to work as well. @PRSGroupIT
Feb 15 2024 09:02 AM
Feb 15 2024 09:19 AM - edited Feb 19 2024 10:28 AM
@shanen0 I'm sure the "you" you're referring to is Microsoft and not Susan Bradley. Susan is a long-time member of the IT community whose invaluable contributions have benefitted IT professionals everywhere. Susan isn't a Microsoft employee, yet she donates countless hours helping others to navigate the complexities of managing Microsoft products and services in an enterprise and small business environment. A true MVP.
We all understand your frustration, Susan included.