Sep 28 2019 09:36 AM
Sep 28 2019 09:36 AM
If Microsoft Windows were made Open Source wouldn't that be great? Visual Studio is open source as everybody knows. So if Windows 10 would follow suit then a whole new era of Softwares and Apps would emerge out from the backdrop for Windows. Don't you think that?
Please note that I meant this question to be an open-ended one. So everybody could pitch in their valuable thoughts about Windows 10 and about the future of Windows going free and licensed under Open Source Licensing. Microsoft has other great products. MS Office, Azure, etc. It's not that they would not be benefitted from this other great software by selling them.
What is your opinion? Please, I am dying to want future Windows licensed under Open Source Licensing.
If you look at Linux OS (Debian or others) which is licensed under Open Source boasts for over 1,00,000 packages. They have regular security and bug fixes.
So can't Microsoft do the same? Now Windows has hundreds of thousands of viruses and comes with bare minimum software. So wouldn't it help Microsoft if Windows were free with the source code from now on?
Sep 28 2019 12:27 PM - edited Sep 28 2019 12:28 PM
I know where this is coming from and your concern is correct, Windows 10 has had lots of problems and made everyone angry at some point during the last 5 years since its release.
from a financial and commercial standpoint, It's not good for Microsoft to open source it, it's their product and they can't just give it out for free.
Linux has been open source for 20-30 years and look at their market share now. even with thousands of distros, their market share on desktop is still super low, they don't even count.
Microsoft's problem is Not the inability to create a perfect OS like Windows XP, Windows 7 and probably Windows 8.1 (if we ignore the UI).
their problem is that they are relying on Insiders to fix their OS rather than doing it themselves just like before Windows 10 came out.
take a look at my post and you'll see what I mean:
Windows has a lot more programs and compatible hardware than any other OS in the world. Microsoft has no problem making a perfect OS. In my opinion, it's mismanagement that is hurting the company right now, and not everywhere though, only on Windows part. they are pretty successful on Azure, Office 365, Xbox and hundreds of other services they represent.
Sep 29 2019 01:30 AM
@HotCakeX Thank you for your reply. Can I say kindly something to your reply?
Do you know why Linux doesn't appeal most of the market? I am not talking against Linux. I work on both Linux and Microsoft.
For example, I use Debian distro. And the learning curve is kind of high.
And another thing that comes to mind is that because of copyright licensing issues, not all device drivers are compatible. Microsoft has an upper hand in P&P or Plug and Play on this.
And finally, don't get me wrong or I am not trashing windows but when I tried to network between windows 10 and Debian there was no easy way out. So windows made it harder to collaborate with Linux. And that kind of hurts me.
Still, I believe Microsoft is trying hard to fix everything. And I pray it works and finally pays off.
Sep 29 2019 02:53 AM - edited Sep 29 2019 02:56 AMSolution
Of course, it's a discussion
well it appears that you're looking at it from only a single viewpoint. the reason for your suggestion for Windows to become open source is just to be more compatible with Linux.
you asked: "Do you know why Linux doesn't appeal most of the market?"
and you also answered: "the learning curve is kind of high." which is one reason.
"when I tried to network between windows 10 and Debian there was no easy way out. So windows made it harder to collaborate with Linux. "
about networking, I could argue that Linux actually made it harder to work with Windows.
There is nothing to trash Windows with anyway. once could however trash the mismanagement and those people in charge. otherwise, Windows developers working at Microsoft are without a doubt the best, they only do what they are told to do. if one CEO decided to dismantle whole Windows test team and caused problem time to time with some hardware drivers then it's not the fault of Windows nor is the fault of the developers.
I've had my own experience with Linux too. but as a Windows user, it could also hurt me that apple made osx the way it is now which is hard to implement with Windows ecosystem.
you see, the fact is every OS has made it harder for other parties.
apple is the worst of all. Linux could be in the middle and Microsoft has been working very hard to remove the restrictions with other platforms.
the universal powrshell, Bash for Windows, WSL etc.
Here comes the good part:
Microsoft even makes a Linux OS for there cloud and allows all the others on it too. . They have Linux in Window store. They contribute to the Linux community and donate lots of money too it and are gold members of the Linux foundation . They even on the Linux private list where they talk about security issues in private because Microsoft makes Linux too now. They do more for Linux than some of distros that just bottom feed off other distros ..they also own github were we do a lot of Linux development on .It's not the 1990s no more when they hated each other ;)
Sep 29 2019 02:20 PM
@HotCakeX I have one last question though.
Do you think GNU (Gnu No Unix) President Richard Stallman's idea about bringing freedom to software an impossible idea? He believes in GPLv3 Licensing (Gnu Public Licensing).
Do you think software should be like so when someone buys a tv from the market they can modify it, change it and resell it?
Is that wrong to think like that? Because one bought the tv with full worth.
But in the case of software, they have to provide the source code of the software and license. Too. So the next person can do the same.
Sep 29 2019 09:16 PM
Oct 03 2019 12:32 PM
@HotCakeX You are right that a programmer works so hard to get a degree or certificate and need money to feed children and family in exchange for selling their software.
I have an inquisitive mind. Then how is that Linux software developers are having a steady and self content income? Can you kindly enlighten me on that? For example, Net worth of Linux founder is not even close to Microsoft founder. But Linux founder is happy with himself.
And if the developers earn money through software upgrade and software debugging and fix, wouldn't that count as an income? It's just my opinion.
Please don't mind. Or take it personally. Don't you think a software developer should earn exactly the amount of money that they need not more than that? I am also a software developer. I earned my certificate with a lot of hard work. But right now I am on limited income, live a simple life and made all my software GPLv3 or open source on GitHub. I am completely happy where I am and where I will go. So just wondering?
Oct 04 2019 02:04 AM