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Text not sorting correctly
- Nov 20, 2018
I played with the text in your post. Without Excel file not definitely sure, but most probably you have Unicode symbol Zero Width Space https://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/200b/index.htm at the front of some of your strings.
How to fix without formulas
Your source text sorted ascending looks like
In any empty cell, let say in D2, make reference on any cell with text in question, here is =A2. Next cell shows that string has 2 symbol length, even if we see only one. In F2 enter the formula =LEFT(D2,1) which extracts that Unicode symbol. Enter and Ctrl+C (copy) the cell.
After that press Ctrl+F to open Find window, click on Find what bar and paste the symbol by Ctrl+V. After that click Replace tab
and in it Replace All
(Please note, if you start with Ctrl+H, Find & Replace window, above doesn't work).
That removes Zero Width symbol in your sheet and in particular in D2 you see "normal text" with length as expected
Re-sort your table - it shall be in right order now.
Again, that's probable scenario, but I'm not sure without the Excel file.
Good luck
Sorry - due to security settings unable to do that. Guess I'd better just start retyping the whole thing.
I see. However, you may copy your file, remove all sensitive information and keep only these few rows which were in your previous post. But as Excel file.
- Mantas_GasiunasMar 05, 2024Copper ContributorNM, found solution, seems like windows system region format was settled incorrectly.
- Mantas_GasiunasMar 05, 2024Copper ContributorYes, same with checked and unchecked.
- SergeiBaklanMar 04, 2024MVP
- Mantas_GasiunasMar 04, 2024Copper Contributor
I have strange sorting problem, new file, just typing 2 letters Y(problematic letter) and something between letters J to W. And trying to sort A to Z. Always letter Y are first than other letter.
- SergeiBaklanMay 24, 2023MVP
That's an opposite situation - you have both numbers and texts and would like to sort everything as text. If to avoid VBA the workaround could be in using helper column where all values are converted to texts and sort by it. Easiest is to use formula like
= A1 & ""
For example, let say we have such set of values - column A is the source and column B is helper one.
In column A 33 is the number, all the rest are texts. If we sort column A in ascending order 33 will on first place
With adding helper column B and sorting by it we have correct values order
- InquisitiveOct 25, 2020Copper Contributor
SergeiBaklan Thank you. I've tried it both ways and it still does not sort accurately. My data is a combination of text and numbers and I need all of it to be treated as text. I've even copied the column content to Notepad and pasted it back in without success.
- SergeiBaklanOct 25, 2020MVP
That's another issue. Most probably you had mix of texts and numbers to which you applied text format. But Excel remembers they are numbers.
After above change you may try to sort again, the message shall appear
Result depend on which option you select. Not sure what it shall be.
- InquisitiveOct 25, 2020Copper Contributor
SergeiBaklan I have a similar issue with sort not working in the attached file while trying to sort the first column at first level and the second column at second level. I have changed the format of these two columns as text but that did not make a difference. Any help is appreciated.
- SergeiBaklanAug 26, 2020MVP
Third party software bit incorrectly creates Excel file, it marks all cells as merged, even if physically they are not merged.
Since such "merged" cells are of different size in the same column (again, virtually)), sorting doesn't work. If simply duplicate the sheet (move & copy with creating the copy) Excel fixes an issue for the duplicated sheet.
Another way is staying on any cell within the range Ctrl+A (range will be selected), when Ctrl+1 and here clear merging setting:
With that sorting works.
- GwaliorAug 24, 2020Copper Contributor
Again, similar problem, but harder for me to solve...
I've got a spreadsheet generated by some other software, which doesn't appear to filter / sort properly.
There is only one sheet. When I apply filter to the table of data on that sheet, sorting on any of the columns does not work. Nothing happens when I select any of the sort options. Filters appear to work.
If I do the following:
- Select the whole sheet (click on top left corner)
- Ctrl+C
- Create a new sheet
- Ctrl+V
- Apply Filter
Then sorting works fine!
What is wrong with the first table of data?
I've attached the problem spreadsheet (after anonymising anything sensitive).