Mar 19 2020 10:38 AM
Hello Insiders, today we’re releasing build 82.0.453.2 to the Dev Channel. We also released a blog post last week about some of the accessibility work we’ve done in the F12 Dev Tools. Check it out here: https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2020/03/11/improving-devtools-accessibility/. We also posted an update on all the work we’ve done on the new tab page here: https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/discussions/creating-a-beautiful-informative-and-productive-n.... It outlines what you can expect in the near future, for example providing more flexibility around the search box in the middle of the page.
As for everything we added this week that’s worth mentioning:
Added features:
Improved reliability:
Changed behavior:
Known issues:
As always, thanks for everything you’ve told us that’s helped make Edge better!
Mar 19 2020 11:11 AM
Thanks for the updates, will Microsoft continue with its schedule and release Edge 81 to stable channel soon? or should we all wait for Google team to get back?
Mar 19 2020 02:02 PM
@josh_bodner [Bug] Can't set temperature to Celsius in NTP greetings. Setting it in news feed panel get back to Fahrenheit after refreshing NTP.
Mar 19 2020 02:07 PM
Two areas that are critical to my continued interest in this product:
1 The changes to the Dark theme.
In Canary you've changed the background tab colours to near black rather than the system accent colour (I hadn't realised that was the system accent colour, just thought you'd picked the same 'Overcast' 118,118,118 colour I have as the accent colour) and lightened the background of the dropdown and context menus. In this Dev there's just the menu colour change, not the background tab one. I'm hoping this is a sign of you taking the time to re-think this, not just that that change is coming but just hasn't reached the Dev channel yet. For me, the old dark theme was so perfect I was using it even when I wasn't normally choosing to use dark themes. Quite unexpectedly, over the last two months I've become very sensitive to large areas of light colour on screen and have been scrabbling to find dark themes I both like and can work with for all the programs on my laptop and apps on my (Android) phone. The former Edge dark theme (both background tabs and menu backgrounds) was so perfect for me I took the time to learn how to change the Firefox Dark theme (with userChrome.css - Firefox is currently my normal browser as Edge isn't up to being my normal use browser at least until you get the history sync working between desktop and mobile) to exactly correspond to the (now former) Edge dark theme in tabs, background tabs, toolbars, Urlbar, dropdown menus and panels, context menus, even extensions that open panes over or in the browser interface … and then also replicate the Edge theme by modifying the dark theme in Thunderbird, my email client of choice. But the new Dark theme in Edge, menus as in Dev and background tabs as here, is truly awful to me. For one (but by no means the only) thing, when I have a fair number of tabs open (which is almost always) I cannot easily make out the active tab's very dark grey in amongst the almost black background tabs. For me it is quite unusable. This single change would have me bidding Edge farewell, and just thanking the dev team for providing me, with the former dark theme, a template to make my Firefox and Thunderbird look the best they ever have with both attractive and very usable dark themes given my new need for such themes.
I believe you are making a fundamental mistake - the same mistake as the Microsoft Launcher team made last year with two successive beta updates that simply drove me to pay for Nova Launcher Premium. Some users volubly request something, and you just assume that everyone else also wants - or at least will be indifferent to - the same thing. You appear not to consider that some users will not just like the way the feature was, but it may well have been one of the things that drew them to the program in the first place. They're not voluble simply because they don't know you were thinking of changing it (or simply don't contribute to these forums anyway, like most users). When some want some UI change, you should see it as a request to add OPTIONS, not just change things.
For me this is a make-or-break issue. If other people want near black background tabs and lighter menus that's fine with me ... as long as I can retain what I had in those respects. Revert the change; or have an appearance setting switch that the user can use to select the old dark theme or the new one (I don't care which is default); or put colour selectors for the background tab colours and menu background colours into settings. I don't care about the mechanism, but if you force the 'new' dark theme colours, I'm off.
2 The vertical scroll behaviour
Currently Edge has two vertical scrolling modes - call them 'touchscreen' and 'traditional desktop', as determined by the scrolling personality flag. Before I knew about that I just thought the scrolling was broken. It now appears that you intend to force 'touchscreen' mode on everyone when it's 'better'. The only touchscreen I have is my phone, which uses Android Edge, not this Edge. I use this Edge on a non-touchscreen laptop and expect proper, desktop-like scrolling from my programs on it. If I wanted a touchscreen device I'd get one and look for good touch-screen adapted apps for it. I don't. I want a proper desktop type scrolling - and HAVE IT NOW with that flag disabled. Why, WHY would you get rid of the great, solid appropriate behaviour you already have. For Goodness sake - all you should do is add a switch in settings to turn 'touchscreen scroll mode' on or off for the user to flip depending on hardware and taste instead of a hidden flag. That would be a plus point for the program, and you need all the plus points you can get given that classic Edge failed to find enough market and you guys basically need to convert a mass of Google Chrome and some Firefox users if this Edge is going to succeed. You need OPTIONS, not limits, and to e.g. offer a choice of scrolling modes. Not rip out a perfect scrolling mode suited to all the users NOT using touchscreens.
Do the smart thing, re-think this and just add a settings switch to switch between the existing touchscreen and non-touchscreen modes.
Mar 19 2020 03:26 PM
@josh_bodner Duplication of favorites and the failure of deduplication is also seriously broken in part because of the bad throttling of the sync endpoint. Devices cannot sync with no error reported. It used to be that I only had to wait about four hours before inappropriate throttling would time out. It took over 24 hours after I deleted all favorites from all Edge installs for it to stabilize. Before deleting everything, I could just sit and watch favorites be duplicated then removed over and over in a loop on multiple devices and channels while doing nothing but watch.
Beyond problems with the sync protocol itself, when is the broken throttling going to be fixed?
When are sync errors, including any failures due to throttling, going to be reported in the UI instead of Edge just silently failing?
When will Edge on the PC have an explicit sync now feature like that present in Edge mobile?
When is the PC version of Edge going to report the last successful sync time like is reported on Edge mobile?
Mar 19 2020 03:30 PM
Mar 19 2020 03:31 PM
@HotCakeX Did you reply to wrong message. I didn't mention themes. I discussed how sync is seriously broken.
Mar 19 2020 03:33 PM
Mar 19 2020 03:39 PM
@HotCakeX Are you asking how it is broken? Read my message for some examples. It has plenty of issues, some UI, and more importantly, sync itself is not reliable and does not work correctly. The failure mentioned in the release notes of deduplicating on multiple channels is either an incomplete description of the failure or there are other flaws. I suspect that throttling of the backend API is a factor. It was before but the APIs have changed and I no longer see the HTTP response reporting throttling but I see similar behavior, the clients stop syncing. The PC clients report nothing. The mobile clients may just spin forever, complete without doing anything or reporting an error, or report that sync failed without explaining why and offering to submit feedback.
Mar 19 2020 03:41 PM
@rshupak wrote:@HotCakeX Are you asking how it is broken? Read my message for some examples. It has plenty of issues, some UI, and more importantly, sync itself is not reliable and does not work correctly. The failure mentioned in the release notes of deduplicating on multiple channels is either an incomplete description of the failure or there are other flaws. I suspect that throttling of the backend API is a factor. It was before but the APIs have changed and I no longer see the HTTP response reporting throttling but I see similar behavior, the clients stop syncing. The PC clients report nothing. The mobile clients may just spin forever, complete without doing anything or reporting an error, or report that sync failed without explaining why and offering to submit feedback.
Dude...i was replying to someone else
Mar 19 2020 03:44 PM
@HotCakeX Sorry. I hate the email notifications I receive not showing that. My mistake.
Mar 19 2020 09:20 PM
I want to know when can I use the new version of Edge to play high quality Netflix video.It is important to the user of the old version Edge.
Mar 19 2020 10:00 PM
Mar 19 2020 10:40 PM
@josh_bodner wrote:
- Fixed an issue where users of certain security software packages will see all tabs fail to load with the error STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION. Previously, the only supported way to prevent this behavior was to uninstall that software.
Didn't have this issue previously (using Bitdefender Antivirus with Windows Defender on periodic scanning), and I got the STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION problem minutes after I updated to 82.0.453.2.
Mar 19 2020 11:43 PM
@little_terry @josh_bodner Could not set Celsius on the prior version to this update either. Reported in Feedback.
Mar 20 2020 02:22 AM
@ascendhu wrote:I want to know when can I use the new version of Edge to play high quality Netflix video.It is important to the user of the old version Edge.
Hi,
you mean 4K ?
you can if your hardware meet this criteria
Mar 20 2020 07:31 AM
Mar 20 2020 10:24 AM
@josh_bodner Any update on set-aside tabs?
Mar 20 2020 10:30 AM
@josh_bodner Thanks for the welcome new features and fixes! Any idea what is being done about Save As or Run, as in Edge HTML? I find the Run option very useful.