08-20-2019 03:33 PM
08-20-2019 03:33 PM
We have some news to announce. We have been working on getting our Beta channel builds ready to unveil, while steaming full ahead getting new features into Canary. We hope that you will download and try out our Beta channel, which installs side by side with our other preview channels (Canary and Dev), as well as the current version of Microsoft Edge. Beta is the most stable preview version of Microsoft Edge, and will the last stop before we go live. Joe Belfiore has written a full blog post on what this milestone means to us, and what you can expect.
In addition to our big announcement of the Beta channel, we are happy to tell you that we are beginning to test our Collections feature in the latest Canary channel builds. We announced the Collections feature in our Microsoft Build 2019 conference keynote in May, and have been working on getting it great since then. To test out this feature, you must first enable it using the #edge-collections flag on the edge://flags page. You are then free to add, edit. delete and even export collections to your heart's content. As always, please let us know how you think we are doing. We love hearing from you, and your feedback, whether you love it or hate it, will help us shape this into the best browser possible. Thank you! - Elliot
08-20-2019 07:08 PM - edited 08-20-2019 07:10 PM
@Elliot Kirk Thanks for the info.
Today, I eagerly downloaded the Beta version, installed and tried it.
However, I immediately uninstalled it after testing it with Pulse Secure Application Launcher + Citrix, it kept asking me to launch Pulse Secure Application Launcher every time instead of doing it automatically like IE, and the Dev, the Canary versions.
This is one of the features that I disliked intensely, and this is precisely the reason why I kept using IE instead of the official Microsoft Edge.
I suggest that Edge must remember the user choice at the 1st time, and subsequently it just does it automatically.
08-20-2019 11:14 PM
08-21-2019 02:51 AM
08-21-2019 04:57 AM
Well.... It's still beta, so report it and get it fixed ;)
08-21-2019 06:28 AM - edited 08-21-2019 06:29 AM
Yep. It's why it's beta. It's the flow of things. Canary, Dev, Beta, and eventually into Stable. You might see things in Canary that never appear in Dev and things fixed in Dev that function perfect in Beta and Beta to test out the things that were tested out and fixed in Canary to Dev and so on and so on. Beta isn't the stable version and feedback will help fix or give input on features for Beta that can carry over (or not) into Stable. Maybe that input is taken for face value and you'll see something new or changed in Canary to test out and eventually flow back up to Beta.
08-21-2019 10:18 AM
@Elliot Kirk Hello man, I very happy to listen about this ... I've already installed the Beta version and Beta is already my default browser :) . I will keep surfing with the Dev version everyday to help testing it. With the Beta version I am inviting many of my friends to install it too ... Congratulations, and thanks to give us the Beta version to us ... With it I do not need Old Edge anymore :) Beta Default to guarantee and Dev to surf and give feedback ;)
08-21-2019 11:37 PM
@TomazON john0515, I am using edge dev on my laptop and it is working well, I am not in the w
ork area now as i am retired, I hope i can be taken seriously
08-22-2019 02:29 AM
Absolutely, John & welcome to the Edge Insider Forum. Us retired folks are taken seriously, same as everyone else. Always, feel free & enthusiastic to ask, comment & contribute.
08-22-2019 04:04 PM
@Elliot Kirk This is an unrelated comment to Beta Channel and Collections in Canary. I have both of those browsers in different ways. Canary is only Chrome's. I downloaded Beta Channel just to see what the stable version was like since I had the Dev version of Chrome Edge already with no problems I've noticed.
I am a long time user of browsers since their inception. It is my observation in many ways we are still using a very similar browser from almost the start. Of course, their are cosmetic changes, better security, and many extensions available now. I also know it is difficult to have one homogeneous effective vehicle for everyone although Edge is trying very hard. Opera some time back issued an experimental browser that apparently is discontinued for the time being that I thought was the future for browsers. My feeling is everyone is still using a rectangle box to click on all over to do the simplest tasks such as basic browsing. On a desktop (especially as the monitors people use get larger) has everyone pointing to one bottom corner, then going to the opposing upper corner to do yet another command. Nothing is multi-dimensional or opaque. In many cases the placement of items don't make logical sense in repetitive use. Yet, as far as I can tell, development is mostly about lining up partnerships which in Edge's case makes a lot of sense, but still I don't see anything truly experimental coming out of these bleeding edge channels. We are mostly typing on keypads developed in the 19th century. So, I know this has been long, is there anything on the forefront of changing the way we browse?
08-22-2019 05:32 PM
Hi Howard & welcome,
This is not directed exclusively at you, but, to Folks in general. And, I am not being picky, playing word games or talking about semantics. I am referring to calling the Beta Channel "the stable version". Correctly, it is the MOST stable. The idea is it will have the fewest flaws, surprises or faults... that issues have been found & fixed in Canary & Dev before they hit Beta. And, it's the MOST stable in so much that it does not experience changes or additions as frequently as the other 2. But, I just don't want anyone confusing stable with finished or non-beta. The Beta Channel, as it's name says, IS a beta; it's theoretically the best beta and the MOST stable... but, it is (still) not the finished product that will ultimately released in it's FULLY stable, finished, non-beta form.
08-22-2019 05:53 PM
Thank you for the information. I have installed Microsoft Edge Beta and just installed the Canary. I am really into this Edge Beta and I have already changed my Default Browser to Version 184.108.40.206 (Official build) canary (64-bit).
Fun times launching and testing this version of Canary! So thrilled I took time to check this out today.
08-22-2019 06:01 PM
Fun times, indeed, Sherry when you make the Channel that can have the most fun occurrences in it as Default (wink); nothing like being adventurous (smile). Kudos to you not making the (sure & comfy) Beta Channel your default.
08-22-2019 06:17 PM
@Drew1903 Hello Drew !! How are u friend? So ... I understand your point and u r right ... The Beta still is called beta , it may have some issues another time or other when new things coming to the Dev comes, I am enjoying it a lot, and I hope people also do ... I have until something to say :
The Beta Version is great with extensions from chrome store, I am testing uBLOCK Origins, Ghostery, Dark Reader and Bitwarden from Chrome store and they are working perfectly. (If I am not totally wrong I guess only Dark Reader is not on the Microsoft Edge Insider Addons) ...
08-22-2019 06:49 PM
@Elliot Kirk Hi there. Thanks for making Chromium engine beautiful and polished, as well as easy on memory and other system resources (impressions come from dev version). I do like my new browser, just like the operating systems installed this machine. One of them is Windows, other one is yet-another-linux-distro which has derived from Ubuntu. I'm booting each one from time to time each day, doing my work, hanging out on web, committing crime to GitHub repo (code is suicide-friendly tbh). I'd like to know when I, and a lot of people around the world, be able to experience the love of Microsoft towards open source community with this piece of art. Thanks again, looking forward to hear from you.
08-22-2019 10:04 PM
08-23-2019 07:10 AM
I installed the beta version yesterday and I'm really liking it, so much so that I made it my default browser today.
I noticed that the "open in IE" is missing from the "... Stettings" is this by design? Will IE sites just work in edge beta without any action or do I need to do something?
08-23-2019 07:37 AM
I wanted to mention that I have installed a few Extensions and all are working great. Here is what I have installed:
08-23-2019 11:02 AM
Hi Mike & welcome,
IE Mode is (available) for certain Enterprise clients, only. For others wanting to use the old, passe Internet Explorer it can be accessed from within your OS. It is found in the Start menu inside the Windows Accessories folder. So, used directly, (by) itself, and not within any (other) browser.
08-23-2019 03:40 PM
"Beta is, as far as I'm concerned, the proposed feature complete release."
Beta is just another step in the cycle, and represents our most stable build of the last several weeks, rather than our most feature complete. You can immediately see differences between Beta and Canary / Developer when looking at the Sync settings supported. We plan to update our Beta branch with major updates about every 6 weeks, and with important fixes as needed. At the end of that period, the Beta will become the new Stable build (once we have set up the Stable channel) and the latest Developer build will be promoted to Beta. If you are interested in seeing the latest set of features (and are willing to put up with some bugs) Canary get our nightly build. We are not complete by any stretch of the imagination at this point, but we are dedicated to building in the open, and getting feedback from you, our Insiders, as soon as possible. Thanks - Elliot
08-23-2019 04:44 PM
Hi @Peter_Dinh, thank you for your comment: "I suggest that Edge must remember the user choice at the 1st time, and subsequently it just does it automatically." Downloads are really tricky because what the "right" thing to do is depends greatly on the type of thing downloading. We have decided to default to Save because we had previously defaulted to open and heard many complaints where people have "lost" content if they didn't have the right program to open it, or if there was some other issue preventing it from opening properly. This is an especially big issue in places where their internet bandwidth is metered and they pay per kb downloaded. I will let the developers that own this feature know of your feedback. Thanks - Elliot
08-23-2019 10:31 PM
@Elliot Kirk, many thanks for the response. Now I see the reason why the beta version does it. Ideally, I still think the classic IE behavior is correct though.
08-24-2019 03:10 AM
After reading all the comments here wanted to say that I installed beta and is working perfect. The only issue I had was that I have two profiles and it didn't recognize one or the other but finally could make both working with assistance from the team at edge support. I don't know if anyone else had this issue and I think has to do that managing profiles is new to edge. I mention this for future updates on the beta channel.
08-25-2019 10:35 AM
Getting problem opening Microsoft Office. Now says system does not recognise programme.@Elliot Kirk
08-25-2019 07:32 PM
I tried to repro this to no avail. Open/running are Edge, Edge C Beta, Dev, Canary & IE. Nothing is impeding or interfering with any component of Office 365.
I will add, there should be no conflict between Office items installed on the OS and browsers; the 2 are quite separate.
Are you saying that since having some Channel of Edge C going, that now & because of that, your Office products have ceased working?
Have you tried repairing Office? Is it ok if Edge C is removed?
08-26-2019 02:16 AM
Thank you for the reply. I'm an independent insurance agent and I have to access many insurance company web sites that are IE only. I thought maybe I could stay on one browser for both work and play. I'll just load IE when I need it as before.
08-26-2019 05:40 AM
08-26-2019 07:30 AM
@john_0515 - Sometimes an extension can break or cause the browser to break. In that case it can an issue with the extension itself and not Edge. Especially if it's happening after several Edge updates. Only thing I can recommond is trying the extension on another Edge browser such as Beta or Canary to see if continues.
08-26-2019 09:21 AM
@MikeDee Hello Mike !! You don't need to download and install Internet Explorer 11 in Windows 10 because it's already installed. If u need it, just go to search bar and type: Internet Explorer :) ... But I believe that that Internet Explorer time is to be over, with new technologies and security updates, enterprises need to update their apps because simply the clients deserve it. Today, people like to be updated with all devices, this is signal of security, speed, and trust ... And the enterprise that do not go to this path will lose they clients to another one that do ... It's time to change, even Microsoft is making huge changes to get tuned with new techs ... :) See u around :)
08-26-2019 09:35 AM
@Sherry Malik Hello Sherry , good to hear from u !!! I have installed
Download Manager (hoping developers give us our own download button, built in home :)) )
Everything working great, no one problem, and all extensions is coming from chrome store to full extension test ;)
See u around !!!
Share with us always when u have some problems :)) but I hope u have no problems ...
08-26-2019 09:43 AM
@Del666 have u tried to reinstall ? This could be many things, but the easier way to fix is:
With Microsoft Office u have your documents saved in the cloud (onedrive); u can unistall it, restart your device and reinstall it again and tell us if worked ...
See u around !!! :)
08-26-2019 10:26 AM
08-26-2019 10:31 AM
Hi @MikeDee, you certainly can use IE mode in the next version of Microsoft Edge to solve this problem. You will need to do a little bit of work to set it up. You can learn more here: https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/DeployEdge/edge-ie-mode, but essentially you need to create a mapping file that tells Microsoft Edge to use IE mode when it goes to certain URLs. Please let us know, either in these forums or using the send-a-smile, how well we are meeting your needs. We are still evaluating the use cases for IE mode, and may be making changes.
Thanks - Elliot
08-26-2019 10:32 AM
08-26-2019 10:35 AM
@TrueGame, no we are not giving up on UWP. We did realize that for a browser to be successful, it needed to be everywhere our customers are. This includes mobile devices on both Android and iOS, as well as MacOS, and older Windows OSes, such as Windows 7 and 8.1.
Thanks - Elliot
08-26-2019 11:22 AM
08-26-2019 11:32 AM - edited 08-26-2019 11:35 AM
One can always use Search for things, of course. Also, as I had told Mike earlier can > Start & it's in the Windows Accessories folder.
Btw, if the Applications window is used, one, really, doesn't need to 'look' for anything as it's all out in the open right in front of you (smile); Nothing insider folders.
08-26-2019 11:34 AM
I saved the link to the doc you mentioned and when the capability in the next release I will use it. And, yes you are meeting my needs, Thanks
08-26-2019 11:39 AM
No I wasn't going to install IE. My laptop came with it and I just it when I have to, but thanks for the advice.
08-26-2019 12:12 PM
Tomaz is right, you could R&R it. OR, as I suggested earlier you could try a Repair 1st. There are, actually, 2 repairs offered. IF one doesn't do the trick, then use the 2nd. Can, also, go through the Office FIX site HERE. Here's a snip to help you find repair options; hit Modify to have this appear.
08-26-2019 05:37 PM
Thank you so much! I figured it our with your guidance and now have my Canary Browser secured or at least I have peace of mind that it is! Awesome! You are the bomb! Yay!
08-26-2019 05:43 PM
Nice to meet you! Looks like I missed a few Extensions eh? The more the merrier I say. As long as they all play nicely together. I wanted to install Ghostery but was not sure if I should or not. Sounds like a plan to me. More toys.
Thank you for sharing!
See you around as well!
08-26-2019 05:53 PM
@Sherry Malik Hello Sherry !! Everything is fine ? :) I used to have Privacy Badge too, but analyzing it , it seems Ghostery does the same ... But I hadn't problem with it alongside the others but for me seems like Privacy Badge had not space to work , like Ghostery stealing it jobs :) ...
08-26-2019 06:12 PM - edited 08-26-2019 06:13 PM
Yes, I finally found Ghostery. Multitasking isn't my good side. LOL Everything is good now. I just cannot get used to getting these Extensions from the Google Play Store. I tried to get Ghostery from Microsoft Edge Insider and got an error so that was a miss. oops!
I do have enough Extensions and I'll see how it goes..
08-26-2019 06:17 PM
Has anyone experienced the page jumping when going to someones post or threads? Maybe it could be a Extension causing this? Just wondering...
08-26-2019 06:19 PM
@Sherry Malik @TomazON
I mentioned elsewhere recently, the inventory in the MS Store for Edge C is growing/has grown. It has more offerings than it did once upon a time. Might check (MS Store) occasionally to see if going to Chrome Store is necessary as things are in a state of flux these days.
08-26-2019 06:23 PM
Sounds like a good idea to me. I'll do just that! Thank you!
08-26-2019 06:24 PM
Certainly, not I, Sherry; no jumping. Maybe not the best reference as I have/use very few extensions.