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Sorting Folders and Files, but Not Separating Folders FROM Files?
I feel like we're talking past each other here, and I want to try to discuss from the ground up.
I'm using Windows 11 version 24H2. I do not use the explicit "group by" feature in File Explorer - and I am fairly confident that this feature plays no part in the trouble I am having. When you use the group by feature, groups of files are separated from each other by big, collapsable group headers -- and I am not seeing those.
When I open a File Explorer window for a particular directory/folder (in details mode) and sort by name, starting at the top I first see all sub-folders sorted from A-Z, and only after all folders are listed do I begin seeing files, all sorted separately from A-Z. This annoying behavior is the default on my current PC, and it has been for every Windows installation I have ever used.
I want to eliminate this segregation, not just for individual folders, but altogether. All directory items should be sorted in a single A-Z list with files and sub-folders treated as peers. I want file "Bravo" to sort between folders "Alpha" and "Charlie".
Things that I've seen suggested that do not work for me:
Shift-clicking column headers to alter the sort order. This does literally nothing as far as I can tell, not even causing a re-sort. Folders and files remain separate.
Clicking the "View" tab in File Explorer and looking for anything germane. My View tab has only these choices: Extra Large Icons, Large Icons, Medium Icons, Small Icons, List, Details, Tiles, Content, Details Pane, Preview Pane, Show. Nothing at all about sub-folders (maybe that went away after Win 10?).
It shouldn't be necessary to use a 3rd-party app to sort directory entries alphabetically, and never mind whether they are files or sub-directories -- but it's starting to sound like Win11 just won't do it. Anyone have another thought?
- chrisin907Sep 18, 2026Copper Contributor
It really shouldn't. I cannot believe none of the developers saw this coming. Astounding that they would miss something so blatantly obvious. Maybe we can get something going to get them to fix this issue?