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Myles Gallagher's avatar
Myles Gallagher
Brass Contributor
Apr 06, 2018

Where to create an Office 365 group?

Right now there are LOTS of places you can create a new 365 Group from.  Just to name a few I know of:

  • Azure AD - Directly create a group
  • SharePoint Team Site - Creates a group along with the site
  • Microsoft Teams - Creates a group along with the team (can also make team from existing group)

There are quite a few more ways that groups can get instanced, but the real issue here is the lack of symmetry.  When a group is created, it gets a SharePoint Team Site regardless of where you make it, but if you make the group as a part of the process of making a new team site you can also select a site design to apply to that site.  I have read that site designs can be applied to existing modern sites, but have yet to find out how to do that.


If you create a group in Teams, a team is added and linked to the group, but if you create a group anywhere else no team is added!  

 

I am trying to build a system where a new Office 365 Group for a new project is created, a specific SharePoint site design/template is provisioned, and a Team is provisioned.  Some other configurations are done using the site design script -> launch a flow feature.  

Can anyone help me understand where the "proper" place to first create a group is?  Especially so that there are no lingering loose connections between services?  This all seems like a bit of a mess right now. 

 

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  • DLFNF's avatar
    DLFNF
    Copper Contributor

    A mess right now?  It's been a mess for the 5+ years we've been using O365.

     

    Just minutes ago I ran into an issue trying to create a SharePoint site collection.  Kept throwing an error saying access denied every time I submitted the new site collection form.  I'm a global admin, so I have access.

     

    Turns out the Site Collection name I was trying to use is already an O365 group.  Of course it doesn't indicate that anywhere unless you go into the directory and search for it.

     

    Everyday another annoyance in this environment.  There's so much inconsistency.  O365 is a hodgepodge of services thrown into a bucket.

  • mhincapie's avatar
    mhincapie
    Iron Contributor

    Myles Gallagher Per your requirements:

    I am trying to build a system where a new Office 365 Group for a new project is created, a specific SharePoint site design/template is provisioned, and a Team is provisioned.  Some other configurations are done using the site design script -> launch a flow feature. 

    The fastest way to have MS Teams, SharePoint and office365 group provision at the same will be through Teams. (GUI or Powershell). As they are not additional steps.

    References:

    • Powershell: https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/skypehybridguy/2017/11/07/microsoft-teams-powershell-support/
    • GUI: https://support.office.com/en-us/article/create-a-team-for-staff-in-microsoft-teams-314ac9d5-36a9-408e-8ae4-7ef20e9f1ddf
    • FLOW: https://flow.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/microsoft-flow-in-microsoft-teams/ https://flow.microsoft.com/en-us/blog/microsoft-flow-in-microsoft-teams/

    If you do it through SharePoint Online and then connect the site with a Team is an extra step. but would like to hear other opinions. Great question.

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