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RobOK
Bronze Contributor
Apr 03, 2017

Publishing Infrastructure - Turn Off - implications?

We started a Sharepoint Online tenant a few years ago and turned on Publishing Infrastructure without knowing much about it. Can we turn it off now? We don't use any features that I am aware of. Are there any implications of turning it OFF?

 

Thanks
Rob.

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  • Sourceress's avatar
    Sourceress
    Iron Contributor
    Sep 29, 2023
    Wondering the same thing. We had this turned on from legacy SP13 and have since migrated to SPO, however our domain site remains a classic site. I'm not able to create new Modern pages despite turning on Site Pages and the Wiki Home Page Setting as other blogs have instructed, and am wondering if the publishing infrastructure is impacting this.
    • Brett Williams's avatar
      Brett Williams
      Brass Contributor
      Nov 14, 2023
      I ended up recently just turning that feature off (hang the risk, lol) and have not noticed or had reported to me any issues with content. I now have my top navigation back which is timely cause Edge browser has recently pushed our right-hand side vertical section to bottom of page on smaller screens. Anyway, I digress.
  • Matt Coats's avatar
    Matt Coats
    Steel Contributor
    Oct 10, 2017

    RobOK, I'm curious to know if you went ahead with this. If so, did your sites experience any serious issues?

    • Trevor Seward's avatar
      Trevor Seward
      MVP
      Oct 10, 2017
      Turning off Publishing does not remove all elements of Publishing. One key take-away is that you still cannot create a Site Template, should you want to do so (and if you manually do so, it's not supported for restore). One of the ways we found this in various scenarios was the PropertyBag on the RootWeb would have remanence of Publishing previously enabled. Those tickets we got to close as 'not supported' when someone was having problems creating a Site Template :-)
      • Brett Williams's avatar
        Brett Williams
        Brass Contributor
        Sep 11, 2023
        Hello, I read this post and replies with interest cause I am in a similar position. I have a team site which has recently had legacy (SP13) content/libraries copied into it. Publishing features were enabled for this copying/migration. I am now interested in disabling publishing features predominately because I want to have the option for top navigation as I had previously. I am being told a little vaguely that disabling the publishing features will/could impact the legacy content but not how and to what extent. Having the navigation on top and not side is important also for users with smaller screens so the right hand column of our homepage isn't pushed to bottom of page. Would love to hear what issues I may or may not have by disabling publishing features. Thanks
  • Pieter Veenstra's avatar
    Pieter Veenstra
    MVP
    Apr 03, 2017
    What is your aim? You can disable publishing but not all publishing elements might be removed. So is there any if the publishing infrasctructure that sits in the way?

    Do you not use the master page/css or page layouts? Also display templates are different when publishing is enabled. Do you have any search een parts?
    • RobOK's avatar
      RobOK
      Bronze Contributor
      Apr 03, 2017

      Thanks for the note -- 2 or 3 aims. One is to simplify and turn off things that are not needed. Second, I understand the Publishing sites might have conflicts with some of the Modern sharepoint features, and third, we want to use Folder Level permissions and there is some warning when you turn off "Limited Access User Permission Lockdown". I think the conflict relates to Anonymous users, which we don't have, but that is what prompted the discussion to just turn off Publishing.  I have been searching but not found a lot of good information about Publishing Infrastructure.

       

      Of the items I mentioned, moving to Modern interface is probably the biggest reason.

       

      Thanks,
      Rob.

      • Pieter Veenstra's avatar
        Pieter Veenstra
        MVP
        Apr 04, 2017

        Hi RobOK,

         

        Another important factor here might be the base template that was used to create the site.

         

        Is this a team site where you enabled publishing or is this a publishing portal where the publsihing featurs were enabled as part of the site template? 

  • jcgonzalezmartin's avatar
    jcgonzalezmartin
    MVP
    Apr 03, 2017
    Yes, you can disable Publishing Features and your site should not be affected...are you sure you are not using any of the publishing features? Site navigation is a good one...
    • RobOK's avatar
      RobOK
      Bronze Contributor
      Apr 03, 2017
      We use the menus where you manually configure each menu choice, so I think that is okay.

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Thanks
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RobOK, I'm curious to know if you went ahead with this. If so, did your sites experience any serious issues?

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I have a team site which has recently had legacy (SP13) content/libraries copied into it. Publishing features were enabled for this copying/migration. I am now interested in disabling publishing features predominately because I want to have the option for top navigation as I had previously. I am being told a little vaguely that disabling the publishing features will/could impact the legacy content but not how and to what extent. Having the navigation on top and not side is important also for users with smaller screens so the right hand column of our homepage isn't pushed to bottom of page. Would love to hear what issues I may or may not have by disabling publishing features. 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You can disable publishing but not all publishing elements might be removed. So is there any if the publishing infrasctructure that sits in the way?

Do you not use the master page/css or page layouts? Also display templates are different when publishing is enabled. Do you have any search een parts?","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2017-04-03T11:26:35.106-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-04-03T11:26:35.106-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":9757},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:Content_Management/category:products-services/category:communities/community:gxcuf89792board:SharePoint_General/message:59288/message:59325","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[{"__typename":"MessageEdge","cursor":"MjUuM3wyLjF8aXwzfDEzMjowfGludCw1OTMzMCw1OTMzMA","node":{"__ref":"ForumReplyMessage:message:59330"}}]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:59330":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:59330","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:59330":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","uid":59330,"id":"message:59330","revisionNum":1,"author":{"__ref":"User:user:3786"},"readOnly":false,"repliesCount":2,"depth":2,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:SharePoint_General"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumReplyMessage:message:59325"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:59288"},"subject":"Re: Publishing Infrastructure - Turn Off - implications?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:59330"},"body":"

Thanks for the note -- 2 or 3 aims. One is to simplify and turn off things that are not needed. Second, I understand the Publishing sites might have conflicts with some of the Modern sharepoint features, and third, we want to use Folder Level permissions and there is some warning when you turn off \"Limited Access User Permission Lockdown\". I think the conflict relates to Anonymous users, which we don't have, but that is what prompted the discussion to just turn off Publishing.  I have been searching but not found a lot of good information about Publishing Infrastructure.

 

Of the items I mentioned, moving to Modern interface is probably the biggest reason.

 

Thanks,
Rob.

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Hi RobOK,

 

Another important factor here might be the base template that was used to create the site.

 

Is this a team site where you enabled publishing or is this a publishing portal where the publsihing featurs were enabled as part of the site template? 

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