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Everyone except external users disappears form Group Visitors
Sounds like a bug. Maybe report it to MS Support?
Kevin, as far as workaround works plus there is no such effect on isolated sites - we will survive. Opening of the support ticket is usually quite time consuming for us. I mean not opening itself, but all following communications and tests. That's for critical cases.
- Pieter Op De BeéckFeb 28, 2019Iron Contributor
Slightly related to this, I have issue with the "Everyone except external users" on Public groups! I want to make an exception and give them Read permissions. As a result, "Everyone except external users" is stored in the underlying Visitors (Read) group. After a couple of days, "Everyone except external users" is back in the Members group and have back their Edit permissions.
This is not a single event - this is the case for all our Public O365 Groups where we want to give them only Read permissions. Anyone has the same issues on their tenant? Ours is located in W-Europe.- niels_de_kokMay 31, 2019Copper Contributor
Pieter Op De Beéck Hi Pieter, i have the exact same issue! After creating a new site the "Everyone except external users" group is member of the Members group instead of the Visitors Group. Also West-Europe (The Netherlands). So far i haven't found a solution.
- Pieter Op De BeéckJun 03, 2019Iron Contributor
niels_de_kok we did get an answer from Microsoft - hate it or love it; it's all about their vision on teamwork. In addition to the previous answer we tried making it a private group and giving read permissions to Everyone except external members. That was not possible either. Both answers combined provide a good answer to the question.
- Martin-CoupalApr 25, 2019Iron Contributor
Pieter Op De Beéck , did you find the issue or get information from Microsoft?
On my side I had the worst experience with the escalation team ever... First line of support tells me they can replicate the issue. Then another level of support tell me they can't replicate the issue. Then the escalation team say that this is a known behavior and it is how public group site should work!! So I start to feel they are making fun of me because in my last discussion they tell me they can't reproduce the issue BUT it is a know behavior and it is how it should work...... So how come they can't reproduce the behavior?? So the end of the story is
1) The UI gives you the ability to change permissions for Everyone Except External Users from Edit To Read in public group site
2) If the permissions are set back to edit, well this is how it should work but they can't do it on their side!!
Also, there is a thread on PowerShell PnP where someone creating a public site and setting EEEU from edit to read change back after a couple of minutes after.... https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/SharePoint/Pnp-provisoning-issue-with-permissions-for-Everyone-except/td-p/388518
What a mess...
- nenonixApr 27, 2019Copper Contributor
See here too
https://github.com/MicrosoftDocs/OfficeDocs-SharePoint/pull/928
- Martin-CoupalApr 10, 2019Iron Contributor
I finally got a confirmation by Microsoft support of this issue where changing permission of "Everyone except external users" from "Edit" to "Read" is change back to "Edit" after a period of time on Public O365 group site.
Hello Martin,
Hope you doing well.
We are following up with you for the issue related to the Modern Sharepoint site and we have reproduced the issue on multiple tenants and found that it is a known issue. We have also discussed your case with my supervisior, also escalated your case to the escalations team and will update you once i will recieve a reply from them.
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