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Outlook for Mac (Paid Version) – Dozens of Challenges, Any Suggestions?
I don’t think I need to repeat what most of us already know: Microsoft’s in-app Outlook support is incompetent at best, misleading at worst. And so are all other Microsoft channels one can tap in to for support.
- The so-called “experts” loop the same scripted answers, suggest fixes that cause new problems, or simply stop replying.
- Tickets are closed prematurely (likely KPI-driven) without solutions, or left hanging with “we’re still working on it” updates every few weeks. My oldest ticket like this is now in month 4.
- Outlook for Mac feels like a paid beta test, and we are the paying beta testers.
My Mistake (Following Bad Advice)
On the advice of an in-app “expert,” I moved from Classic Outlook to the New Outlook after my IMAP accounts started duplicating files (Title-of-File 28 and so on).
When the New Outlook began breaking down too, I tried switching back. That’s when I lost:
- My entire address book
- All reminders
- Other important data
Now I’m stuck in New Outlook, with Classic no longer an option without risking more loss.
Where I Am Now
- I’ve raised a dozen+ tickets and used the in-app support multiple times (currently broken in my Outllook since months).
- Each time, I asked for a real Mac Outlook expert or higher-level support.
- Instead, I’ve ended up with a list of about two dozen bugs and broken features (which I’ll share separately). I even sent this list with a letter requesting a real expert and a level-two support person.
- The result? A kind but non-expert agent. I ticked the box for email contact (which always results in a phone call), then they want screen sharing, then they offer useless answers, show they did not read thoroughly… and the loop begins again.
My Main Question
Right now, my top priority is:
How can I safely revert back to Classic Outlook without losing data?
- I need a reliable way to back up everything in New Outlook first, so I can restore if things go wrong.
- The backup option in New Outlook is greyed out.
- When I asked support, their advice was literally: “Switch back to Classic and make the backup there.” I know…
- After months of tickets, I still don’t have a safe, confirmed backup/restore method.
Why I’m Posting Here
I no longer trust Microsoft’s “experts.” And I won’t experiment blindly with their suggestions until I know I can restore my data safely.
So I’m asking this community:
- Has anyone successfully reverted from New Outlook to Classic without losing data? And how did you do this?
- How did you back up first?
- Are there tested workarounds for these problems, or is the only realistic option to abandon Outlook for Mac entirely?
Any tested, real-world advice would be much appreciated.
Thanks.
PS and yes, I am on the latest Mac OS and Outlook version.
Here is the doc submitted to MS:
Subject: Escalation Request – Outlook for Mac Issues
Dear Microsoft Support,
First, I kindly request that this case be assigned to an agent with full Outlook for Mac expertise. So far, most of the agents I have spoken/dealt with seem more Windows-focused or not fully trained in Outlook for Mac.
Important Notes Before Troubleshooting
- Pleasedo not suggest reinstalling Outlook or switching back to Legacy without addressing the risks outlined below.
- I havenine IMAP accounts (no POP accounts). When I previously followed support advice to create a new identity and reinstall Outlook, I lost all reminders and address book entries. I only managed to recover them by restoring from Time-Machine. This was unacceptable and must not happen again.
- If reverting to Legacy is necessary, I need aclear guarantee that no emails, reminders, or contacts will be lost.
- The reason I initially left Legacy was because of persistent folder duplication (e.g., folders named xx17 and higher) and your agent said this would be a good solution. Unless there is a permanent fix for this, reverting is not a viable option.
Enclosure: Detailed Issue List – Outlook for Mac (Office 365, Commercial)
A. Data Loss Risks & Backup
# | Issue | Description | Requested Fix | Severity |
1 | Returning to Legacy | Reverting risks data loss (reminders, contacts, calendar). Legacy also created random duplicate folders (xx17, xx18, etc.). | Guarantee safe revert without data loss or folder duplication. | High |
2 | Backups | Export/backup option is permanently greyed out. Legacy allowed full backup. | Enable backup/export for accounts, reminders, contacts, etc. | High |
B. Search & Synchronization
# | Issue | Description | Requested Fix | Severity |
3 | Search Failures (Visible Emails) | Search fails to locate emails that are clearly present. | Fix search reliability. | High |
4 | Search Failures (Disappearing Emails) | Emails vanish from search though retrievable via a deep search in UBF8T346G9.Office folder. | Ensure Outlook search indexes all mail consistently. | High |
5 | Reply/Sending Failures | - Some messages stuck as “downloading” | Fix sending/reply bugs and allow removal of stuck messages. | High |
6 | Duplicate IMAP Folders | Some IMAP accounts show extra Inbox or Archive folders. | Clarify origin and safe removal. | Medium |
C. Email Functionality & UI
# | Issue | Description | Requested Fix | Severity |
7 | Viewing Replies | Legacy showed sent replies via a button; grouping in new Outlook is inconsistent. | Restore a reliable way to view replies. | Medium |
8 | Incorrect Sent Mail Count | Unified Sent box shows “4,294,967,295” messages. | Correct message count. | Low |
9 | Replies Disappearing | Some email replies disappear entirely unless found via deep file search (see 4). | Prevent loss of replies. | High |
10 | Attachment Indicator | Emails with attachments no longer visually marked. | Reintroduce indicator. | Low |
11 | Outbox Editing | Emails in Outbox cannot be opened/edited offline. | Restore editing functionality. | Medium |
12 | Categories Greyed Out | Categories unavailable for IMAP inbox emails. | Enable categories for IMAP. | Medium |
13 | Trash Behavior | Some emails vanish immediately after moving to Trash. | Keep items until manually deleted. | Medium |
14 | Restoring Deleted Emails | Cannot drag emails from Trash back to Inbox. | Allow restoring deleted items via drag/drop. | Medium |
D. Calendar, Contacts & Reminders
# | Issue | Description | Requested Fix | Severity |
15 | Teams Meeting Reminders | Meeting reminders lack join links; accepted invites sometimes show as unconfirmed. | Restore full functionality of Teams invites/reminders. | Medium |
16 | AppleScript Support | Commands like IMAP and Account appear in dictionary but don’t work. | Restore full AppleScript functionality. | Medium |
17 | Contact Autofill | Stored names don’t appear in search/autofill. | Fix contact lookup. | Medium |
18 | Duplicate Contacts | Contacts duplicate sometimes automatically; removal must be manual. | Provide bulk de-duplication or stop auto-duplication. | Medium |
19 | Duplicate Reminders | Reminders duplicate sometimes automatically, removal must be manual. | Provide bulk de-duplication or stop auto-duplication. | Medium |
20 | Contacts Toolbar | Cannot customize toolbar in Contacts. | Enable customization. | Low |
21 | Adding Contacts | Cannot add email address to contacts by clicking it (was possible in Legacy). | Restore this feature. | Medium |
22 | Calendar Conversion | Legacy allowed emails to be converted to calendar entries. | Restore feature. | Low |
23 | Calendar Invites | Invites not available unless sent to primary account. | Support invites across all accounts. | Medium |
E. Notifications, Updates & Misc.
# | Issue | Description | Requested Fix | Severity |
24 | In-app Support Not Working | In-app Outlook support is non-functional and has not provided useful responses. | Confirm why it fails and provide a working alternative. | Medium |
25 | Support Notifications | Daily pop-up about “Customer Support activity,” even when none exists. Feature now broken. | Stop or fix notification. | Low |
26 | Frequent Update Pop-ups | Update window appears too often. | Allow disabling or limiting update prompts. | Low |
F. Support Experience & Compensation
# | Issue | Description | Requested Fix | Severity |
27 | Support Experience | Agents missed appointments, gave copy-paste answers, and closed unresolved cases. | Improve continuity, assign competent Mac agent, ensure accountability. | High |
28 | Compensation Request | More than 20 hours lost on missed calls, repeated troubleshooting, and unproductive sessions. | Confirm process for requesting compensation for lost time and effort. See below. | High |
Request for Resolution and Compensation
Given the number and persistence of these issues, Outlook for Mac (Commercial) feels under-tested and unstable despite being a paid product. I have already spent more than 20 hours waiting for promised calls, writing follow-up emails, dealing with answers that regress, non-Mac trained agents, bad copy-paste answers, attempts by agents to close unresolved issue, and troubleshooting without resolution to name a few. I feel like an unpaid and poorly treated beta tester!
I request:
- Escalation to an Outlook for Mac expert.
- Clear guidance on safe backup/recovery for contacts, reminders, and accounts.
- A statement on how I can requestcompensation for this buggy application, the time spend and the ongoing headaches it gives, to name a few. Maybe the easiest is to cancel the need to pay the licencing fees. Please confirm the appropriate channel for submitting this claim unless you are authorised to so immediately, which I hope for simplicity’s sake you are.
Thank you for your attention. I look forward to your prompt and constructive response.