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Legacy contract terms going away at renewal?
Hi Steve_Leach1
Without having the website link or document that you're referring to, I'm not sure of which announcement you're referring to.
I've checked the partner center announcements and I do not see term changes applicable to your post. The only announcements that I'm guessing you could be referring to are:
- Microsoft has decided to continue supporting the legacy autorenewal functionality beyond July 11, 2022. I did not find documentation that this has changed. Note: new orders of legacy CSP subscriptions are not allowed since those orders should be placed in the NCE/new commerce experience. It’s best practice is to proactively migrate all subscriptions prior to their renewal date from Legacy to new commerce.
- There is an announcement to an update to the MCA agreement that is required for CSP, but the effective date is March '23...not July '23:
If neither are what you're asking about, please provide a link or file of the announcement/statements mentioned in your post.
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I'm having a hard time understanding the wording of this, compared to last year's announcement which clearly stated that legacy subscriptions would not auto renew and needed to be migrated to NCE.
Also, this recent announcement states:
"Partners can identify the respective New Commerce product SKUs for each of the legacy offers migrate to the NCE Mapping tab in the legacy Offer List Matrix. Partners can view deprecated offers in the legacy license-based price list as DEPR (deprecated). These recent deprecated offers will have the Valid-From Date value as 20230701 in the price list."
But looking at the current July pricelist, I do not see any DEPR offers with the Valid-from-Date 20230701. Does this mean that this won't apply to DEPR offers with an older Valid-From Date?
I agree the wording could be much clearer that these must be transitioned to NCE upon renewal.
I'm also hoping Microsoft set these to expire in Partner Center.
- I would not expect any migration promotions for education or not-for-profit eligible customers/offers as these are already heavily discounted.
- That June announcement has been changed since it was first published.
It is now clearer in its explanation that existing legacy subscriptions would renew as legacy.
But the new July announcement invalidates this anyway. From 1st January all renewing legacy (except some D365 promos) must renew to NCE. this seems in conflict with the announcements on legacy term contract not renewing. Initially the guidance was July 1, now it’s Jan1 so it’s conflicting info and confusing depending where you look.
Announcements are published each month of the year & are available in Partner Center:
June 2023 announcement:
- Effective July 1, 2023 - Multiple legacy offers were deprecated - June 2023 announcements - Partner Center announcements | Microsoft Learn
July 2023 announcement:
- Effective January 2024 - Automatic migration of all renewing commercial and public sector customers to new commerce - July 2023 announcements - Partner Center announcements | Microsoft Learn
Hope that clears things up for you
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this seems in conflict with the announcements on legacy term contract not renewing. Initially the guidance was July 1, now it’s Jan1 so it’s conflicting info and confusing depending where you look.
so clarity on this so we can properly communicate is important
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If you confirm the information that's unclear in this announcement, I can bring this to the attention of the NCE team when I meet with them next week.
June 2023 announcements - Partner Center announcements | Microsoft Learn
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- Think you gave a clear summary, yeah!
And as far as I can see, no promotions (yet). - Great news for partners that Microsoft is enforcing NCE for nonprofit and commercial subscriptions and not just penalizing partners for not being able to force customers to move to less favorable NCE terms
- So if I read all this right..
Legacy to NCE isn’t July 1 but now Jan1
Pub sec us going NCE jan1 but Nov we can start moving them over.
Will there be promos like before for legacy to NCE I wonder? I didn’t see anything on the July promo list but probably too soon.
Do I have this summarized correctly? - Yes!
I noted the announcement today too. From my perspective this is good news. - With the new announcement, it becomes clearer what Microsoft has planned:
Next steps in CSP new commerce: Commercial legacy seat-based subscription migration and introduction of public sector offers
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/partner-center/announcements/2023-july#6 - I would ask that you reach out to the Seat Based NCE Program Group to confirm your interpretation of this blog post. This blog post has created a great deal of questions that have been posted to the NCE Seat Based Technical Preview and Q&A group. In response to these questions, a Microsoft employee, Brent Serbus provided the following response:
Brent Serbus can you confirm customers will be able to still renew in legacy? and can customers still add more licenses to their legacy subscriptions? Thanks!
[Yesterday 1:59 PM] Brent Serbus
Yes, as with the other 200 or so DEPR offers, there is not change to auto-renewal.
[Yesterday 2:00 PM] Brent Serbus
This is only about "new subscriptions", which, at this point, if "Commercial" should all be on/going to 'new commerce' for new sku acquisitions.
Thank you. Hi ClaudioStallone , JillArmour
As a friendly reminder, a subscription term is whatever was chosen when at the time of purchase.
If the customer selected a 3yr subscription, then the term ends after 3yrs, at which point they're unable to further renew because the term has expired.
If the customer is in their 1st or 2nd year of a 3yr term, they're eligible to renew until the term ends.
The announcement supports this as it states:
Note: Microsoft encourages cloud migration, so feel free to migrate before the end of the term and utilize one of the applicable promotions listed in the Global Promo Readiness Guide, or on the Offer Matrix.
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What I am hoping is that Microsoft are finally pushing the migration to NCE.
Yes, we've moved the majority of our customers, but our sales team has been reluctant to drive the message, and customers reluctant to migrate due to the less flexible nature of NCE.
Subsequently we now have some customers with a mix of legacy renewing SKU's and NCE SKU's when they needed something new.
Please make this a positive move MicrosoftAdding too, that on a recent partner Q&A session there was no clear answers, and lots of partner chat afterwards with different opinions of what the communication means.
- JillArmour
Community Manager
ClaudioStallone I don't know about this, but I will inquire within and post when I get a confirmed response. Stand by!! 🙂
Hi JillArmour ,
could you help us here that this is clearly explained?
Whether the legacy licenses at term end will no longer be automatically renewed and need to be migrated to NCE or will they continue to be renewed?
