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What version of Excel (on Windows) is required to do co-authoring?
- Sep 07, 2017
Eric,
co-authoring is available as of version 1707 build 8326.2058.
SergeiBaklan wrote:people on the same channel and build could have different set of functionality - it takes time to deploy for all tenants.
If I understand correctly (even if I don't catch the meaning of "tenant" in this context: Google translate being been far from helpful here :-) ) this confirm that same build number doesn't implies same functionality.
That greatly reduce the reliability of release notes then!
For monthly channel co-authoring was introduced in July previous year,
That's more than one year ago.
In my company we're stuck to semi-annual channel (thanks to our IT Team :-/ )
I conclude that we will have to wait *at least* 6 month to obtain this feature.
Bummer!
To be more specific, I do not exactly need "realtime live co editing".
I simply would like the option for multiple users to open read/write an Excel worksheet located in Microsoft cloud at the same time without being blocked by the https://support.office.com/en-us/article/excel-file-is-locked-for-editing-by-another-user-6fa93887-2c2c-45f0-abcc-31b04aed68b3 error and being able to synchronize modification when pressing the "save" button.
That tooltip seem to indicate that it could be possible:
But I've been unable to make it work
Is this feature a part of co-authoring too?
>even if I don't catch the meaning of "tenant" in this context
Tenant = customer/company. So https://company1.sharepoint.com is one tenant, https://company2.sharepoint.com is another tenant. Technically, each one is a subdomain on a webserver.
>In my company we're stuck to semi-annual channel (thanks to our IT Team :-/ )
Coming to the defence of the IT team :-) They do this to help you, not hinder. The closer you get to the release date, the more bugs you will encounter. So a semi-annual release schedule means that those dare devils on the monthly channel have found most of the bugs before you.
Large companies put stability way above new features.
If you want a shock, get yourself on the insiders channel - boy does Office look *very* different. I've got this running in a test virtual machine. Not sure I like it...
BTW - if you have admin rights on your work computer, you can switch channel yourself. But IT will quite rightly possibly not want to support you :-)
- Gilles PionOct 11, 2018Copper Contributor
Helios Comms wrote:
Although there is a lot of resistance to say the least to auto-save from my clients but that's because change is *hard*.The sad thing here is that me and my collègues do not need "auto-save" or live co-authoring neither: what we're waiting for is just the ability to synchronize change of edits made on a excel file, opened at the same time, when saving (as we did before switching to cloud).
- Helios CommsOct 11, 2018Iron ContributorProbably the differences between HTTP access using the notoriously flaky WebDAV (I think) and the incredibly well-established SMB/CIFS (Windows) or NFS protocol (Unix) protocols.
As for testing alone, that's what the monthly and targeted annual channels are for. IT can put/switch a few trusted users onto the newer versions for in place testing.
Although from this thread, I recall that co-authouring isn't coming until the next semi-annual release which is a shame. I'm pretty sure Microsoft want it out there as they are loosing customers to Google suite offering two key features late to Office: co-authouring and auto-save. Although there is a lot of resistance to say the least to auto-save from my clients but that's because change is *hard*. They complain when Office crashes and looses documents they haven't saved but then complain when Office automatically saves ones documents to OneDrive and SharePoint. Can't win ;-) Re-training is needed - most of them have no idea that "Version history" is there... - Gilles PionOct 11, 2018Copper Contributor
Helios Comms wrote:If you want a shock, get yourself on the insiders channel - boy does Office look *very* different. I've got this running in a test virtual machine. Not sure I like it...
BTW - if you have admin rights on your work computer, you can switch channel yourself. But IT will quite rightly possibly not want to support you :-)
I could (and I do) test monthly channel on my home computer too so that's not a problem. But here, we are speaking of a data sharing feature. It doesn't make much sense to test it *alone*.
My major grief is that I cannot understand why this, ability for several users opening the same excel workbook and have their edits merged using the "save" function, which I've been using for ages with previous Office versions with file located on shared network drives, is still not possible with cloud based storage yet.
- Helios CommsOct 11, 2018Iron ContributorPS. wearing my developer head, adding co-authouring to a very well established product with millions of man hours of development by different people over many years will not have been a trivial change. So I do have some sympathy for delaying it's release. As I noted above, large companies value stability over new features. Considering most people use the features they learnt in Office 2000 eighteen years ago, most don't jump up and down when things change :-) Google, as in many things like Chrome, had the benefit of not having to support legacy systems so could incorporate co-authouring from the off.