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Oct 21, 2022

VBA Optimization help for Large string manipulation related to memory management?

TLDR; The issue I need to solve. How do I optimize the code, so the runtime for each 250 is approximately the same? i.e, about say 15 secs? consistently from 0 - 35,000 conversations. and even if...

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TLDR;

The issue I need to solve.

How do I optimize the code, so the runtime for each 250 is approximately the same?

i.e, about say 15 secs? consistently from 0 - 35,000 conversations.

and even if I re-run the same macro, it'll take about the same time, and not keep increasing as the code keep running.

 

What is my code about?

As a teacher (I am not but as an example), I have say 100 students, whom I have told to provide screenplay writing, which I have in each cell.

 

So for example in cell A1, the data is

Mary: good morning

John: Hello!, nice to meet you

Mary: The weather is great today, do you want to go to the movies and hang out?

John: Yes, I would like that.

 

and cell a2, the data is another large screenwriting play.

 

Now my macro creates 12 columns, each with unique useful info, like what are all the stuff Mary said, who spoke first, how many time did each person speak, what happened at the end, the last three sentences used, etc etc.

 

With the help online, and by asking questions here, with the help of you guys. I finally did it!!! Yay!.

 

The macro now runs for 25,000 such plays, gathering a frick-ton of information for my work.

 

What I did and observed with my VBA Code,

Now is the runtime problem, and I assume memory management problem.

So this code works great for about 500-1000 conversations.

but it started taking SUPER long.

 

I thus wrote a timer. (sample code)

Dim StartTime As Double\nDim LapTime As Double\nDim PrevTimer As Double\n\nCells(2, 9).Value2 = Beginrow & \" - \" & Lastrow & \" is Done - \" & Format((Timer - StartTime) / 86400, \"hh:mm:ss\")

 

This helped me know the time difference between each set of conversations.

What I did was make a for loop, and take 250 conversations at a time.

(sample code)

While Beginrow < Total_Conv_Count\nIf Beginrow + 250 > Total_Conv_Count Then\nLastrow = Total_Conv_Count\nElse\nLastrow = Beginrow + 250\nEnd If\n\nCall My_CustomScript(Beginrow, Lastrow)\n\nCells(2, 9).Value2 = Beginrow & \" - \" & Lastrow & \" is Done - \" & Format((Timer - StartTime) / 86400, \"hh:mm:ss\")\n\nWend

 

I noticed when I first boot my Laptop.

For 250 conversations, it takes 11 secs

For 2,000 conversations, it takes 1.30 secs

 

Kay. I stopped it (ESC key), and made a change to VBA, etc etc.

Ran the VBA code again.

 

For 250 conversations, it takes 32 secs

For 2,000 conversations, it takes 3.24 secs

 

At around 8,000 conversations on my first run, it started taking 2 mins for every 250 conversations.

At around 9,000 conversations, the same run, the VBA code started taking 5 mins for every 250 conversations.

 

Great, I needed to Optimize.

So I went to this website https://vbacompiler.com/optimize-vba-code/

As well as googled a lot. I did what they all recommended, which is basically the same.

 

Now I use the status bar updating, cause I disabled everything else.

Application.StatusBar = Beginrow & \" - \" & Lastrow & \" is Done - Time Elapsed: \" & Format((Timer - StartTime) / 86400, \"hh:mm:ss\")

 

Cool, it runs faster now (or so I thought)

Cause I had just rebooted and restarted my laptop.

 

I find, that although faster, it still increases in time.

So the first run is faster than the third (re-running the same macro)

and the first 1,000 conversations is faster than the next subsequent 1,000

 

The times I recorded are, in seconds (for each 250)

11 - 13 - 15 - 16 - 17 - ............ - (at 2,500) 1min - 1.30min - 2min .......

 

Sigh, no progress. idky why.

I also tried

Set Search_Range = Nothing

Erase data_array

 

at the end of each private subroutine, for each 250, once done. I will clear the memory. No luck.

 

 

The issue I need to solve.

How do I optimize the code, so the runtime for each 250 is approximately the same?

i.e, about say 15 secs? consistently from 0 - 35,000 conversations.

and even if I re-run the same macro, it'll take about the same time, and not keep increasing as the code keep running.

 

Workaround solution I am currently using.

Split the 30,000 conversations into 5,000 each, thus making 6 sheets in the same workbook.

Run the macro for the first sheet.

Then reboot the Laptop, open the Excel workbook again, and do the second sheet - Repeat.

Finally, once all is done, copy and paste all 6 sheets into a single sheet by manually appending the data.

 

Clearly, I want to avoid this workaround.

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TLDR;

The issue I need to solve.

How do I optimize the code, so the runtime for each 250 is approximately the same?

i.e, about say 15 secs? consistently from 0 - 35,000 conversations.

and even if I re-run the same macro, it'll take about the same time, and not keep increasing as the code keep running.

 

What is my code about?

As a teacher (I am not but as an example), I have say 100 students, whom I have told to provide screenplay writing, which I have in each cell.

 

So for example in cell A1, the data is

Mary: good morning

John: Hello!, nice to meet you

Mary: The weather is great today, do you want to go to the movies and hang out?

John: Yes, I would like that.

 

and cell a2, the data is another large screenwriting play.

 

Now my macro creates 12 columns, each with unique useful info, like what are all the stuff Mary said, who spoke first, how many time did each person speak, what happened at the end, the last three sentences used, etc etc.

 

With the help online, and by asking questions here, with the help of you guys. I finally did it!!! Yay!.

 

The macro now runs for 25,000 such plays, gathering a frick-ton of information for my work.

 

What I did and observed with my VBA Code,

Now is the runtime problem, and I assume memory management problem.

So this code works great for about 500-1000 conversations.

but it started taking SUPER long.

 

I thus wrote a timer. (sample code)

Dim StartTime As Double\nDim LapTime As Double\nDim PrevTimer As Double\n\nCells(2, 9).Value2 = Beginrow & \" - \" & Lastrow & \" is Done - \" & Format((Timer - StartTime) / 86400, \"hh:mm:ss\")

 

This helped me know the time difference between each set of conversations.

What I did was make a for loop, and take 250 conversations at a time.

(sample code)

While Beginrow < Total_Conv_Count\nIf Beginrow + 250 > Total_Conv_Count Then\nLastrow = Total_Conv_Count\nElse\nLastrow = Beginrow + 250\nEnd If\n\nCall My_CustomScript(Beginrow, Lastrow)\n\nCells(2, 9).Value2 = Beginrow & \" - \" & Lastrow & \" is Done - \" & Format((Timer - StartTime) / 86400, \"hh:mm:ss\")\n\nWend

 

I noticed when I first boot my Laptop.

For 250 conversations, it takes 11 secs

For 2,000 conversations, it takes 1.30 secs

 

Kay. I stopped it (ESC key), and made a change to VBA, etc etc.

Ran the VBA code again.

 

For 250 conversations, it takes 32 secs

For 2,000 conversations, it takes 3.24 secs

 

At around 8,000 conversations on my first run, it started taking 2 mins for every 250 conversations.

At around 9,000 conversations, the same run, the VBA code started taking 5 mins for every 250 conversations.

 

Great, I needed to Optimize.

So I went to this website https://vbacompiler.com/optimize-vba-code/

As well as googled a lot. I did what they all recommended, which is basically the same.

 

Now I use the status bar updating, cause I disabled everything else.

Application.StatusBar = Beginrow & \" - \" & Lastrow & \" is Done - Time Elapsed: \" & Format((Timer - StartTime) / 86400, \"hh:mm:ss\")

 

Cool, it runs faster now (or so I thought)

Cause I had just rebooted and restarted my laptop.

 

I find, that although faster, it still increases in time.

So the first run is faster than the third (re-running the same macro)

and the first 1,000 conversations is faster than the next subsequent 1,000

 

The times I recorded are, in seconds (for each 250)

11 - 13 - 15 - 16 - 17 - ............ - (at 2,500) 1min - 1.30min - 2min .......

 

Sigh, no progress. idky why.

I also tried

Set Search_Range = Nothing

Erase data_array

 

at the end of each private subroutine, for each 250, once done. I will clear the memory. No luck.

 

 

The issue I need to solve.

How do I optimize the code, so the runtime for each 250 is approximately the same?

i.e, about say 15 secs? consistently from 0 - 35,000 conversations.

and even if I re-run the same macro, it'll take about the same time, and not keep increasing as the code keep running.

 

Workaround solution I am currently using.

Split the 30,000 conversations into 5,000 each, thus making 6 sheets in the same workbook.

Run the macro for the first sheet.

Then reboot the Laptop, open the Excel workbook again, and do the second sheet - Repeat.

Finally, once all is done, copy and paste all 6 sheets into a single sheet by manually appending the data.

 

Clearly, I want to avoid this workaround.

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I have to remove tons of stuff tho. But should give a rough idea.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"86","kudosSumWeight":0,"postTime":"2022-10-21T05:39:32.273-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2022-10-21T05:39:32.273-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":3914},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:microsoft365/category:products-services/category:communities/community:gxcuf89792board:ExcelGeneral/message:3658577/message:3658614","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[{"__typename":"MessageEdge","cursor":"MjUuMXwyLjF8aXwzfDEzMjowfGludCwzNjU4NjU1LDM2NTg2NTU","node":{"__ref":"ForumReplyMessage:message:3658655"}}]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3658655":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3658655","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3658655":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","uid":3658655,"id":"message:3658655","revisionNum":1,"author":{"__ref":"User:user:22322"},"readOnly":false,"repliesCount":4,"depth":3,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:ExcelGeneral"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumReplyMessage:message:3658614"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3658577"},"subject":"Re: VBA Optimization help for Large string manipulation related to memory management?","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3658655"},"body":"

Sandeeep 

\n

If you need this speeded up, the best thing to do is process everything in memory first, by using arrays. Then after it has all been worked through, push out the entire array to the worksheet in a single line of code. This may be orders of magnitudes faster that what you currently have.

\n

But a very simple first step would be to turn off screen-updating and calculation prior to your loop and turn those back on afterwards:

\n
'...Code\nApplication.ScreenUpdating = False\nApplication.Calculation = xlCalculationManual\n'Loop here\nApplication.ScreenUpdating = True\nApplication.Calculation = xlCalculationAutomatic\n'Some more code
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JKPieterse 

 

Right, I did try that 

Private Sub OptimizedMode(ByVal enable As Boolean)\n     Application.EnableEvents = Not enable\n     Application.Calculation = IIf(enable, xlCalculationManual, xlCalculationAutomatic)\n     Application.ScreenUpdating = Not enable\n     Application.EnableAnimations = Not enable\n     ' Application.DisplayStatusBar = Not enable\n     Application.PrintCommunication = Not enable\nEnd Sub

 

From the website here.

https://vbacompiler.com/optimize-vba-code/

 

The idea you are providing with arrays, is point 6 from this blog post correct?

https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/excel/9-quick-tips-to-improve-your-vba-macro-performance/m-p/173687

 

Dim vArray As Variant\nDim iRow As Integer\nDim iCol As Integer\nDim dValue As Double\nvArray = Range(\"A1:C10000\").Value2 ‘ read all the values at once from the Excel cells, put into an array \n\nFor iRow = LBound(vArray, 1) To UBound(vArray, 1)\n  For iCol = LBound(vArray, 2) To UBound(vArray, 2)\n    dValue = vArray (iRow, iCol)\n    If dValue > 0 Then \n      dValue=dValue*dValue ‘ Change the values in the array, not the cells \n    vArray(iRow, iCol) = dValue\n  End If\nNext iCol\nNext iRow\nRange(\"A1:C10000\").Value2 = vArray ‘ writes all the results back to the range at once

 

So, I haven't tried this yet.

I'm confused with this part from above

For iRow = LBound(vArray, 1) To UBound(vArray, 1)\n  For iCol = LBound(vArray, 2) To UBound(vArray, 2)\n    dValue = vArray (iRow, iCol)

 

With regards to Lbound(vArray, 1) & again the loop Lbound(vArray, 2)

What is 1 & 2 referring to?

and when we put them back with 

Range(\"A1:C10000\").Value2 = vArray

 

is (vArray, 1) referring to A1? & the second loop is B1?

i.e a1 a2 a3 a4... then b1 b2 b3 b4....

 

So is C column not being looked at? but I'mma assume it is?

 

I understood the examples here

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/office/vba/language/reference/user-interface-help/lbound-function

 

and here,

https://www.automateexcel.com/vba/ubound-lbound-function/

 

but didn't understand what and where I need to modify.

as is.

should I make vArray = Search_Range( entire H column) with tons of conversations,

then, cell = split(vArray(iRow,iCol), \"||\") then run my for loops?

 

if so, how am I putting the values back into the 25 columns the specific data needs to be entered into?

Cause, I am using cell(1, 20) etc, to reference which column I need to put it in.

 

and idk how to loop and assign properly.

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