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Excel 2007 average discrepency

I am averaging a group of numbers in Excel 2007 that have 21 columns & 42 rows. When I average all the cells at once I get one result, 59.25183, but when I average each row & then average those resul...

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I am averaging a group of numbers in Excel 2007 that have 21 columns & 42 rows. When I average all the cells at once I get one result, 59.25183, but when I average each row & then average those results I get an entirely different result, 72.791. Also if I average each column & then average those results it gives a different number, 49.231. In trying to figure out why I created another sheet with the same number of columns & rows & filled it with random numbers. All the cells were filled with numbers & when I did the above all the results were the same. But when I started deleting values in some of the cells the 3 results began to differ. The more I deleted the bigger the difference became between the 3 averages. Can anyone explain why this happens & which result is correct? To reiterate, if all the cells have numbers, the average results are exactly the same, but some cells are empty. the results are not the same. Can anyone explain why this happens?

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I am averaging a group of numbers in Excel 2007 that have 21 columns & 42 rows. When I average all the cells at once I get one result, 59.25183, but when I average each row & then average those results I get an entirely different result, 72.791. Also if I average each column & then average those results it gives a different number, 49.231. In trying to figure out why I created another sheet with the same number of columns & rows & filled it with random numbers. All the cells were filled with numbers & when I did the above all the results were the same. But when I started deleting values in some of the cells the 3 results began to differ. The more I deleted the bigger the difference became between the 3 averages. Can anyone explain why this happens & which result is correct? To reiterate, if all the cells have numbers, the average results are exactly the same, but some cells are empty. the results are not the same. Can anyone explain why this happens?

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Bettypin 

 

When all of the cells are filled in, then the individual row and column averages have the same denominator, so the average of parts is equivalent to the average of the whole.

 

Say you have a 3x3 grid of numbers (X1 through X9). Averaging the rows or columns and then averaging those results can be represented as:

 

If you remember your algebra, fractions with the same denominator can be added, so this is equivalent to:

 

which simplifies to this, and is the exact same as the average of the whole:

 

 

When you start deleting cells, the average function excludes those cells. Say you delete X2, X3, and X4. You then have this, where each average of the parts (fractions in the numerator) have different denominators:

 

Then, getting common denominators and  simplifying, you will see that averaging the parts is not the same as averaging the whole:

 

 

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When all of the cells are filled in, then the individual row and column averages have the same denominator, so the average of parts is equivalent to the average of the whole.

 

Say you have a 3x3 grid of numbers (X1 through X9). Averaging the rows or columns and then averaging those results can be represented as:

 

If you remember your algebra, fractions with the same denominator can be added, so this is equivalent to:

 

which simplifies to this, and is the exact same as the average of the whole:

 

 

When you start deleting cells, the average function excludes those cells. Say you delete X2, X3, and X4. You then have this, where each average of the parts (fractions in the numerator) have different denominators:

 

Then, getting common denominators and  simplifying, you will see that averaging the parts is not the same as averaging the whole:

 

 

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