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lightsenshi54
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May 05, 2023

Feedback on Windows 11

I've been a Windows customer since the beginning.   I was doing computing back on the TSR-80, when we still saved information on audio tape.   However, with the changes in the last few versions of Windows; I feel I can on longer use a Windows product.

 

I've been using a Windows 11 system for several months now, and I've hated every time I had to use it.  With the increase in non-optional "optional" and non-removable features; I've decided that it's time to move onto a Linux based system.

 

Sincerely,

a former Microsoft customer.

  • Seagreen1810's avatar
    Seagreen1810
    Copper Contributor
    I started building my computers before Windows. I used DOS commands and a black and green screen. So I feel (as many of you here) that this is another Vista or Millennium. I had my last system hard drive crashed and I just wanted to buy a laptop. No set up ... "Plug n Play". I wasn't given a choice on what edition it came with. I got 11.
    NOT user (very experienced user) friendly. I fear I'm in for a long drive down the "update highway". I didn't know anyone who had updated nor used 11, so I had no idea, except rumors, that made me skeptical.
    When I say user friendly, just getting to this site to write this feed back caused a "blue screen of death" which I haven't seen in years. So the fact that I went through all the hoops to get here should tll you how disappointed I am.
    • Jared_Bernard's avatar
      Jared_Bernard
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      Last night I got another forced update that shut down everything I was working on. And the reason again seems trivial -- now "fun facts" appear on the locked screen, which I've disabled again. So this is the second time in a month!

       

      Same here,Seagreen1810; I started on the MS-DOS black-and-green screen on an old IBM Vendex in the 80s, and I also miss the plug-n-play ability to add more memory or graphic cards myself. And if those computers crashed, sometimes they could be hotwired.

       

      Aside from the subscription-based software, the thing that really irks me is that so many of the so-called advances aren't really technological but are merely aesthetic. Sure, the processing chip gets faster, we get solid state hard drives, and more GB of RAM, but applications and things like photos also require more storage space than ever before, so the computer capacity and the need for it increase in tandem. And those are the real changes! All the other changes are, when you really get down to it, just the plastic casing and the look of the icons, so not really technological advances. To me, the main differences between computers today versus those 20 years ago is that now we can't own our software (as it's all subscription-based), own or write CDs or DVDs (as it's all subscription-based), or customize by adding memory or graphics cards, etc. And it doesn't escape my attention that all computers, whether Apple or Windows, are ultimately manufactured by Quanta Computer, a Taiwanese company... Not saying that's a problem, only interesting that Windows has taken on Apple's fad-based business model and they're both made in the same place.

       

      I would switch entirely to a Linux OS, as lightsenshi54 said, if so many of the tools I need weren't only available on Windows.

  • crackerzz's avatar
    crackerzz
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    I bought a new PC a week ago and Windows 11 came installed in the computer. I have many years experience with the afore mentioned operating system. The good ones do not come along with each release. Windows 7 was a good one. Windows 10 was another good one. So, Windows 8 was a mess and Windows 9 died in the laboratory I think.
    Windows 11 has so far been an awful experience for me. Too many things have been forced on the operator. The sign in page , Microsoft Edge , the restrictions to customize system settings . These are just a few of the things I have run up against in the first two weeks of Windows 11.
    So , my initial impressions are not good. This is not an operating system that is in any way fun to use. The other things is the endless lists of options for almost everything you click on.
    In closing , I am in a rush to replace this OS as soon as possible. My advice to the Windows 12 team would be to loosen up a little bit . Your users are not all boring yuppies.
  • Jared_Bernard's avatar
    Jared_Bernard
    Copper Contributor

    lightsenshi54

    Over the last several years, I've become very disenchanted with Windows, and the new updates that were installed last night are emblematic of the problems. I was in the midst of working with enormous data files, and the system forced an update and restarted, closing my programs, which resulted in me losing my place. And the reason for the critical update? Windows added a startup app that would tell me the latest NBA scores and stock market trends on the locked screen. I could not care less about sports or stocks, and even if I did, why would I want this info in my face before I even sign into my computer? By the way, I also loath the new subscription-based software. It seems to me that, since Bill Gates left, Windows has been attempting to emulate Apple. To me this is a mistake. Not everyone swoons over their business model of making the newest ephemeral fads both irresistible to consumers and incompatible with older versions. Windows in contrast was great about being user-friendly and robust to version updates, but this is no longer the case. About these updates that installed last night, I already went into the settings to remove the changes.

  • Reza_Ameri's avatar
    Reza_Ameri
    Silver Contributor
    Would you mind elaborate your issue in details?
    Not sure what do you mean by optional and non-removable features?
    Could you share some examples?
    • adfamily's avatar
      adfamily
      Copper Contributor

      Reza_Ameri 

      When I right click in Windows 11 to bring up the context menu, and select "New", I get a list of 8 options which I mostly don't use. And these irrelevant options, such as Microsoft Access Database (which appears twice on the menu) and Microsoft Publisher, are not removable unless you have administrator access to the registry editor.

      • Reza_Ameri's avatar
        Reza_Ameri
        Silver Contributor
        Thank you for the clarification, so you are looking for a way to easily customize the menu when you right click , is that correct?
        Like you said, there is no easy way to do it , however I advise you to open start menu and search for feedback and open the Feedback Hub app and file a Feedback and request this feature.
  • A little way back History for those who never used a TRS 80 Computer. Things have changed a whole lot since then so I can understand your frustration especially compared to the days of fewer choices of software and limited features back in the day. Things were a lot less complicated back then. Now for the History of the TRS 80...
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TRS-80
  • EricWSikorski's avatar
    EricWSikorski
    Copper Contributor

    lightsenshi54Agreed. Microsoft removes features without asking users if they want to keep them. For example, I move the taskbar to the left of my screen where it takes up less space and allows me to maximize the vertical space on my monitor. Microsoft took that feature away and now you are stuck with the taskbar running across the entire bottom of the screen wasting screen space.

    • marshaw15's avatar
      marshaw15
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      @Jared_Bernard

      @Seagreen1810
      @lightsenshi54

       

      I identify with your pain as well as the many other similar comments. My home computing  started with CMOS and using W 11 at work and now with a new laptop with a disc drive for older software that I still need. I think I can deal with change and always learning new systems and software. What I don’t like is spending time being forced to use software that  now take 2 to 3 steps instead of 1. I realize that MS has multiple ways of doing 1 thing and that is fine, just make the  ways to get to what I want do hidden in an option. “E.G. I need to figure out how to  bypass the Home button to just get to where W10 opened.” I don’t know programing, but it seems to me that if you already have W10 why can’t the  W11 just be the same on the front and different behind the scenes? If people want a new skin let them choose…I just want it to be secure, run fast, store more, and shift smoothly.  I like storing things on my PC, I don’t want my info ~documents~ automatically stored on the cloud. A backup hard drive works well.

      My PC background: “ozzy” in 1981 and then a Kaypro II with 4 drives so we could convert CMOS to DMOS (family of engineers have to modify everything). 1994 was a IBM ThinkPad. Today just replaced my 7 yr old HP Envy 17.5 with a Lenovo Yoga 16. Going from CMOS to Windows 11 means I am used to change. And if I didn’t live surrounded by stop signs, and my knee didn’t bark my convertible I would still have a 6 speed. My upgrade uses paddles when I want to have fun…yeah, I can change but…

      • nicbygrave's avatar
        nicbygrave
        Copper Contributor

        What an appalling system is Windows 11. I am at my wits end trying to understand it and use it as I did Windows 10. It is slow, little works as you would expect it to, there seem to be many more meaningless (to me) options, the inconveniently-positioned Task Bar. The fact that I had to buy a new computer before Windows 10 support ran out is black mark against Microsoft as far as I am concerned.

  • MilosPanic's avatar
    MilosPanic
    Copper Contributor
    This is the wors Windows ever.
    It makes me and all colleagues in my company so ineffective and pieced off every day.
    Together with new Outlook --> disaster!
    The nicest look non-user-friendly experience!

    Milos - Grammer company
    • MilosPanic's avatar
      MilosPanic
      Copper Contributor
      Yes, I forgot also to mention that New Teams is also s...t.
      In every application we have now 1 step more for regular things we are using on daily base (quick example - downloading photos from Teams conversation....)
  • MattN1275's avatar
    MattN1275
    Copper Contributor

    So much stupid Fk on windows 11, where to start; The task bar not being movable is by far the worst thing about 11. The fact that you get notifications on the lock screen that say "Private" and then you click on it, and it has you log in, but then there's no actual notification, and it just opens settings for notifications is huge Fk waste of my time. The fact that when I "Shutdown" the pc, it doesn't actually log the user out, then I start up my pc, I don't have enough memory available to start a Hyper-V VM because the user that was logged in when I "Shutdown" the pc is still Fk logged in, so I have to switch users, log them out, then log back in on my user then try to start the VM again. The log out process is ridiculously Fk stupid now too, rather than clicking the user and clicking sign out, first I have to click start, then I have to click the user, then click some stupid Fk ... button that's hard as Fk to see, then I can finally click log out, and if I accidently hit switch user then I have to log back in and do all of the above again. I also have do all of that before I "Shutdown" to avoid the previous issue with VM's.

     

    Windows 11 pro Fk sucks.

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