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Gmail less secure apps being locked down
unless you set 16 digit passwords less secure apps are required
Hello my name is Stewart Goodin I have worked in the computer industry since 1982
I am seeing this problem, less secure apps, already cropping up with TELUS accounts.
First Less secure apps is required to be enabled for accessing GMAIL emails from OUTLOOK 2019
this applies to both IMAP and POP access to GMAIL via OUTLOOK 2019 unless you set 16 digit passwords.
So please if you are responding to questions take the time to read what people have said before you respond
I am tired of the millennial and the non millennial's attitude of not knowing what you are responding to before you answer.
here is a link to setup a 16 digit password to access your GMAIL account from OUTLOOK 2019
https://support.google.com/accounts/answer/185833
Here are step by step instructions to accomplish this
Google Help Center 2-Step Verification > Signing in with 2-Step Verification > Sign in with App Passwords
Login to GMAIL Account "myaccount.google.com"
Click on security
Enable 2 step verification, you will have to have a cell phone or access to some other device.
Now click on the back arrow, Top Left Center of Screen,
Having done that now app passwords will appear
click on app passwords
click on select app and mail
click on select device and select windows computer
click generate and a 16 digit code will appear #### #### #### #### highlight and copy to clipboard
go to Microsoft OUTLOOK and paste that code into your password line, you will be prompted for it,
click on remember and save
Your outlook will work fine from now on and you will find less secure apps is all ready disabled
I have tested it and it works fine
Sincerely
Stewart Goodin .PAT
CEO Stewart IT Services Canada
- Thank you stewartgoodin. Also thanks to Peter_Rosner for the clear explanation of how to enter the 16-digit password. Between the two of you, I was successfully able to overcome Google's removal of the "enable less-secure apps" setting by setting an app password. I use Outlook 365 and it's working great again.
Hi mikec7 I am experiencing exactly the same issue you did and wondered if the solution you referred to is still fully working? Thanks in advance.
anthony3220 good morning sir yes the information I provided is still working perfectly if you have any trouble let me know and I’ll gladly help
Stewart Goodin @ gmail.com
- G'day Stewart.
I have to admit I can't fathom Microsoft's lack of clear advice to it's users over this issue as there's bugger-all info available via any web searches. As per some of the responses in this thread, it seems the geeks are happy to throw solution grenades without answering the underlying question of the person writing the post. Not everyone is a computer guru. Frustrating and annoying.
Alas, I didn't find this post till after I'd spent an hour and half online to Microsoft. But after having had to speak to two, yes, two Microsoft reps (the first one didn't have a clue what Google had done with less secure apps) I'm finally mobile. But I had to get the guy to dial into my PC to do it.
Long story short, from what I saw him do I think he followed the steps you've outlined above.
So, pat on the back and an elephant stamp for you Stewart! 🙂Yes, excellent thanks Stewart. I struggled with this for a couple of hours until I found your solution !
It works on my desktop with W10 & O365 (and even on my old laptop with W8.1 & O2007).
Many thanks !!
Stewart - you are a legend!
I read through reams of Microsoft and Google help text/gobbledegook that turned out to be useless but this really works!!!Stewart - the solution worked perfectly to get my Outlook 2007 back up and running with gmail.
Thanks you very much!
Pat
Thanks Stewart,
This step-by-step explanation helped me after my gmail IMAP-account stopped working in Outlook 2010.
Google itself wasn't clear that I could reactivate it and how.I feared I would have to do a 2-factor login every time IMAP was queried.
Fortunately I haven't.
- Your instructions are excellent - clear, precise and accurate - and they worked flawlessly. I have my Outlook gmail connection back. Thank you for doing this. Shame on MS for not being more out front with this solution or any other instead of leaving users hanging.
- Hi Stewart,
Does this solution also work with Outlook 2010, or will it be impossible for IT-challenged senior citizens such as myself to continue using Outlook 2010 with Gmail after May 30, 2022? I hate upgrades! Is there any work around for Outlook 2010?
thanks, PeterIf we do not find away to add OAUTH2.0 into an old version of Outlook; I'm afraid an upgrade is required.
[and I find the newer versions of MS Office to be both ugly and clunky - functions are moved into dumb & inconvenient sub-menus]Hi Kevin, I spent several hours chatting online with an MS tech support agent yesterday. I think we found a way to get Outlook 2010 to work without Less Secure Apps. We first created a new Outlook profile from ControlPanel>Mail(32-bit)>ShowProfiles>Add. We then went to my Google account and turned on 2-Step Verification and then generated a 16-digit App password. We copied this 16-digit password into the new Outlook Profile (under ControlPanel). There were lots of steps and I am simplifying; the entire thread is too long to paste into this forum. After turning on 2-step verification the Less Secure Apps toggle vanished and Outlook 2010 is now opening fine, so I assume Outlook is working without Less Secure Apps being on. I'll only know for sure after May 30th. I'll upgrade to Outlook 2021 regardless, but this way I can still use Outlook 2010 if I hate the new interface and cannot figure out how to do things in 2021 that I do easily in 2010 (I'm still traumatized by an Excel upgrade in the early 2000s).
Below is a post-chat summary sent to me by the agent, but I don't know if this summary contains all the necessary information.
all the best,
Peter
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Hi Peter,
Thanks for contacting Microsoft Customer Service. I'm very glad I get to work with a patience person like you. I already email you the transcript of our chat so you can review it. This email is the steps and helpful troubleshooting you can use for your wife's account in case you lost your copy.Create a new profile https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/edit-an-outlook-profile-e93ea161-f742-4119-bfa1-9dca4c3e48fa
Gmail server settings:
IMAP: imap.gmail.com
POP: pop.gmail.com
SMTP: smtp.gmail.com
PORT NUMBERS:
IMAP
Incoming: 993 SSL
Outgoing: 465/SSL and 587/TLS or STARTTLS
POP
Incoming: 995 SSL
Outgoing: 465/SSL and 587/TLS or STARTTLS
Generate app password https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/add-a-gmail-account-to-outlook-70191667-9c52-4581-990e-e30318c2c081
A helpful resource for you:
Create New Profile > Generate app password > Set the profile as default (Always use this profile)
Make sure you check My outgoing server (SMTP) requires authentication if Port numbers are SSL and TLS/STARTTLS.
If you still need help, contact support referencing the service request under the signature and this link https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/home/contact Thank you very much for working with me., Have a great day ahead!
Thanks again,
Quimjeanne
Microsoft Customer Service and Support
Thank you for a concise and accurate solution to the Gmail less secure apps issue. By following your directions, I was able to successfully implement the solution quickly with minimum effort.
It is refreshing to encounter someone who not only writes well but also reads well.
- You are a fantastic fellow, thank you this, it works like a dream. Why Google had to replace my 24 character password with a less secure one is any ones guess but hey.
And yes Microsoft please change your attitude in responding.
