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A B
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Jun 01, 2018
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Ctrl F brings up debug window instead of find

Sometimes when I have the same excel file open for hours, when I press ctrl f it brings up the debug function instead of the find menu. When I close excel and reopen the file, the normal ctrl f funct...
  • Wyn Hopkins's avatar
    Wyn Hopkins
    Jun 02, 2018

    Are any of the files you are opening .xlsm files?

     

    Do you have any addins installed?

     

    Also try pressing Alt + F11 to see if the PERSONAL.XLSB workbook has any modules in it

     

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Wyn Hopkins
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Jun 02, 2018

Are any of the files you are opening .xlsm files?

 

Do you have any addins installed?

 

Also try pressing Alt + F11 to see if the PERSONAL.XLSB workbook has any modules in it

 

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A B
Copper Contributor
Jun 05, 2018

Aha! Yes, one of my documents that I often have open had modules added--it was a template I got from someone else. I removed the modules and the problem was fixed. Thank you!

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    SergeiBaklan
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    Dec 14, 2021

    JAGGyula 

    The difference between negation and subtraction relating to Excel is discussing for at least 25 years. Logical negation has function as NOT(). For arithmetic negation it is used "minus" sign in front of expression. Virtually you may consider it something like =NAR(expression) which has high priority instead of =-expression. 

    For the sample

    =-(A2+1)^2  => NAR(A2+1) ^ 2  == (-(A2+1))^2

    That's not Excel specific, same is in Google Sheets and any programming language which use minus as arithmetic negation.

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      JAGGyula
      Copper Contributor
      Dec 17, 2021
      Thank you for the answer. Ok, now I understand, why it is happened. If it is would be in the visual basic, I even can accept, but in the excel I can't, because the mathematics rules are definite and this is not a program language. For example, I won't accept this answer from a student, if he made a same error in a calculation.
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        SergeiBaklan
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        Dec 18, 2021

        JAGGyula 

        If consider Excel as calculator with lot of unnecessary features - yes, it shall be school math. If consider Excel as data modelling tool, which is it, it has to have negation and negation works as it works everywhere.

         

        That's not Excel specific, any spreadsheet tool. If you enter

        =-5^2

        each of Excel, Google Sheets or Zoho Sheet (I believe any other one) return +25. The only difference, some tools as Zoho Sheet automatically converts above formula to

        =(-5)^2

        which you may see in formula bar.

         

        Again, the key is do we have negation operator or not. School math doesn't introduce it, calculators don't have it. Spreadsheets and programming languages have. As soon as you have such operator you shall accept order of operations with it and don't miss negation with subtraction, even if they have the same minus symbol to indicate the operator.

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Sometimes when I have the same excel file open for hours, when I press ctrl f it brings up the debug function instead of the find menu. When I close excel and reopen the file, the normal ctrl f function is restored. Any ideas what this bug is and how to fix? With some light google searching I couldn't find any other users reporting the same issue.

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Sometimes when I have the same excel file open for hours, when I press ctrl f it brings up the debug function instead of the find menu. When I close excel and reopen the file, the normal ctrl f function is restored. Any ideas what this bug is and how to fix? With some light google searching I couldn't find any other users reporting the same issue.

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Aha! Yes, one of my documents that I often have open had modules added--it was a template I got from someone else. I removed the modules and the problem was fixed. Thank you!

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Aha! Yes, one of my documents that I often have open had modules added--it was a template I got from someone else. I removed the modules and the problem was fixed. Thank you!

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Different files. When it happens, it applies to all excel files open at that time. And I don't know what a personal macro workbook is, I don't use macros.

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Different files. When it happens, it applies to all excel files open at that time. And I don't know what a personal macro workbook is, I don't use macros.

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Are any of the files you are opening .xlsm files?

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Do you have any addins installed?

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Also try pressing Alt + F11 to see if the PERSONAL.XLSB workbook has any modules in it

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