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Hello Insiders!  Today we’re releasing build 85.0.531.1 to the Dev channel.  It’s a small week this week since it’s the first one for major version 85.  Everything noteworthy it contains is: 

 

Added features: 

 

  • Added a setting to enable preloading of certain webpages for faster searches and browsing. 

 

Improved reliability: 

 

  • Fixed an issue on Mac where new installations of Edge sometimes crash on launch. 
  • Fixed an issue where closing the browser too soon after importing data from another browser sometimes causes a crash. 
  • Fixed an issue where pasting content when Information Protection is enabled sometimes crashes the tab. 
  • Fixed an issue where attempting to restart Edge on Mac to apply an update gives an error message instead of updating the browser. 

 

Changed behavior: 

 

  • Fixed an issue where tabs sometimes appear at their minimum width, even when there’s space for them to be larger. 
  • Fixed an issue where scrolling down a page sometimes causes it to jump back up to the top. 
  • Fixed an issue where unpinning and re-pinning Edge to the Taskbar sometimes creates a shortcut to the wrong profile. 
  • Fixed an issue where the … menu button sometimes disappears at small window sizes. 
  • Fixed an issue on Mac where Shy UI sometimes disappears while being interacted with. 
  • Fixed an issue where the highlighted word sometimes doesn’t match what’s being dictated when reading PDFs aloud. 
  • Fixed an issue where printing a PDF sometimes doesn’t center the content on the printed page, leading to cut-off content. 
  • Fixed an issue where the default printer is sometimes forgotten or reset. 
  • Fixed an issue where the Immersive Reader toolbar sometimes disappears when the window isn’t wide enough. 
  • Fixed an issue where translating content in Immersive Reader sometimes leaves grammar markings from the previous language on the page. 
  • Fixed an issue where Youtube videos embedded on webpages aren’t shown in Immersive Reader when they should be. 
  • Fixed an issue where clicking the “Complete sign in” button sometimes doesn’t enable sync until the browser is restarted. 
  • Fixed an issue where Application Guard windows sometimes don’t get proxy settings applied properly. 

 

Known issues: 

 

  • Users of the Kaspersky Internet Suite who have the associated extension installed may sometimes see webpages like Gmail fail to load.  This failure is due to the main Kaspersky software being out of date, and is thus fixed by making sure the latest version is installed. 
  • Some users are seeing favorites get duplicated after we made some previous fixes in that area. The most common way this is triggered is by installing the Stable channel of Edge and then signing into it with an account that has already signed into Edge before.  Fixing this should be easier now that the deduplicator tool is available.  However, we’ve also seen duplication happen when running the deduplicator on multiple machines before either machine has a chance to fully sync its changes, so while we wait for some of the fixes we’ve made to come to Stable, make sure to leave plenty of time in between runs of the deduplicator.  We hope that this will be improved now that version 81 is released to Stable. 
  • After an initial fix for it recently, some users are still experiencing Edge windows becoming all black.  Opening the Browser Task Manager (keyboard shortcut is shift + esc) and killing the GPU process usually fixes it.  Note that this only appears to affect users with certain hardware and is most easily triggered by resizing an Edge window. 
  • Some users are seeing “wobbling” behavior when scrolling using trackpad gestures or touchscreens, where scrolling in one dimension also causes the page to subtly scroll back and forth in the other.  Note that this only affects certain websites and seems to be worse on certain devices.  This is most likely related to our ongoing work to bring scrolling back to parity with Edge Legacy’s behavior, so if this behavior is undesirable, you can temporarily turn it off by disabling the edge://flags/#edge-experimental-scrolling flag. 
  • There are some issues where users with multiple audio output devices sometimes don’t get any sound from Edge. In one case, Edge becomes muted in the Windows Volume Mixer and unmuting it fixes it.  In another, restarting the browser fixes it. 

 

As always, we couldn’t do this without you!

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@josh_bodner the Global Media Controls have suddenly disappeared with this build.  When I play a YouTube for example, the control for the Video and PIP no longer appear in the top right.

 

I still have it activated in Experiments.

 

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@cmescher still working with command line switch

--enable-features=GlobalMediaControls

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@eddiezato it does work with that switch, but doesn't without.  Thanks.

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@josh_bodner "New InPrivate window" disappeared from jumplist. Again.

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Web page preloading is awesome. i think addons such as ublock origin turn it off though to prevent advertisement preloading.
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@josh_bodner 

 

Please can you provide some more info about your implementation of preloading. Does it only work on popular search engines, or for all websites?

 

In my company we have hundreds of people in the field, in countries with very slow 3G/4G connections. If their browsers are constantly trying to preload content, this will saturate their already slow connection and make their browsing experience unworkable. Is there a management policy to disable this?

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Hi! Had anyone noticed something new with Edge Dev 85? I used to clear all my browsing history when I quit Edge. Next time I open it, it's fresh clean. But since Edge 85 arrived, the search bar suggests links from my browsing history that should have been deleted. Before, the search suggestions were empty. 

 

I admit : I went in the AppData\Local\...\Default folder and turned "History" and "Visited links" files into read-only... But these files are gone! How can I do the similar manipulation to hard-disable any history logging?

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hello , i am new, i was thinking to join dev channel weekly, but when i downloaded and clicked it showed to update existing edge, i thought 2 versions possible one for feedback with no account because it's risky,another for work. is it possible to have have two edges? one stable , one dev? kindly reply. thanks in advance.  @josh_bodner 

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@SAS_MAD 

Yes, it is possible and I used both the Edges (Dev and stable) from two months ago and I am currently using two Edges (Canary and stable).

 

Download the Edge beta channel right now from here. 

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@josh_bodner 

 

I am using Version 85.0.531.1 and it creates a real mess of my Favorites when syncing between my PCs. To make things more interesting it's not only duplicating them by the thousands but also relocate/rearrange them.
Remove duplicates is doing some of the needed work but not all.

Eyal.

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Dashlane's form filler does not pop-up on any webpage since this update. Dashlane does see the field since the logo appears in it.

@josh_bodner 

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Good time. Please add the Closed tab Recovery button as in the Maxthon browser. Make a browser like the Maxthon of the 4th version. People will be very grateful!!!!@cmescher 

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Good time. Please add the Closed tab Recovery button as in the Maxthon browser. Make a browser like the Maxthon of the 4th version. People will be very grateful!!!

@josh_bodner 

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@josh_bodner This build seems crashy as hell. Anything involving moving video between displays or off- and back on-screen (via scrolling) eventually leads to the GPU driver crashing (RTX 2070S here), or if the new hardware-accelerated GPU scheduling in Windows 10 2004 is enabled, to outright system crashes. If Edge Dev ran for an hour, things start getting wonky, leading to the eventual crash.

 

The GPU driver crashes are undefined Event 14 in nvlddmkm, when hardware scheduling is disabled. When scheduling is enabled, it does bugcheck 0x0000007E.

 

Example:

 

Log Name: System
Source: nvlddmkm
Date: 2020-06-04 17:42:36
Event ID: 14
Task Category: None
Level: Error
Keywords: Classic
User: N/A
Computer: DESKTOP-CRRU2JI
Description:
The description for Event ID 14 from source nvlddmkm cannot be found. Either the component that raises this event is not installed on your local computer or the installation is corrupted. You can install or repair the component on the local computer.

If the event originated on another computer, the display information had to be saved with the event.

The following information was included with the event:

\Device\Video3
CMDre 00000003 00000200 00001000 00000005 00000018

The message resource is present but the message was not found in the message table

Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
<System>
<Provider Name="nvlddmkm" />
<EventID Qualifiers="49322">14</EventID>
<Version>0</Version>
<Level>2</Level>
<Task>0</Task>
<Opcode>0</Opcode>
<Keywords>0x80000000000000</Keywords>
<TimeCreated SystemTime="2020-06-04T15:42:36.3942149Z" />
<EventRecordID>13294</EventRecordID>
<Correlation />
<Execution ProcessID="4" ThreadID="19468" />
<Channel>System</Channel>
<Computer>DESKTOP-CRRU2JI</Computer>
<Security />
</System>
<EventData>
<Data>\Device\Video3</Data>
<Data>CMDre 00000003 00000200 00001000 00000005 00000018</Data>
<Binary>0000000002003000000000000E00AAC0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000</Binary>
</EventData>
</Event>

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@Eyal_Shahar 

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@Eyal_Shahar wrote:

@josh_bodner 

 

I am using Version 85.0.531.1 and it creates a real mess of my Favorites when syncing between my PCs. To make things more interesting it's not only duplicating them by the thousands but also relocate/rearrange them.
Remove duplicates is doing some of the needed work but not all.

Eyal.


I'm also seeing favorite sync issues, duplication, removal, relocation, favorites not syncing at all etc.

 

i'm not only seeing them on Dev but also on Stable Edge version 83. these don't look like they are going away any time soon and sync issues are the main roadblock not letting me use Edge as my main browser and so i'm stuck with my Firefox until Edge developers decide to give sync issues the Highest priority and Fix it for good.

Been using Edge canary more than a year, as long as i can remember Edge always has had favorite sync issues..

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As I am deleting duplicates every day, the sync process is ahead of me and yesterday it created almost 30,000 duplicates on each computer :facepalm:.

Today, it also deleted some of my favorites. 

It's getting risky...  :sad:

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Yeah..always have a backup of your favorites in a HTML file or on a different browser until this gets fixed.. :(
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@Eyal_Shahar  Syncing Favorites has been a perennial issue on my Win 10 computers (2 running W10 1909 Stable with Edge Stable, 1 running W10 2004 Stable with Edge Stable, 1 running W10 WIP Fast Ring with Edge Stable, Dev and Canary).  I've experienced unwanted duplications, as you have, failures to replicate Favorites across computers, dropped Favorites, and Favorites rearranged for no apparent reason.  Edge seems to handle syncing okay for a while, and then acts up.  This has been going on since April 2019 and hasn't improved.

 

In each case I am running Edge "clean" (that is, no extensions or other add-ons or third-party addons  except the Font Rendering Enhancer extension to mitigate the "wimpy font" issue somewhat), so I'm reasonably sure that the sync issues are embedded in Edge itself rather than in conflicts with third-party extensions or addons.  My Favorites are also relatively straightforward (16 core Favorites on the "Favorites Bar" and 15 news-related Favorites running under "Other Favorites"), with no folders or other complications, so I'm reasonably sure that nothing in the Favorites structure is causing the problem.  My W10/WIP computer (the one on which I run W10 Fast Ring and Edge Dev/Canary) was off line for several weeks last month and during that period the problem occurred on the computers where I run W10 2009 (at that time) with Edge Stable, so I'm reasonably sure that the problem is not related either to WIP or Dev/Canary use.

 

In short, normal troubleshooting does not get to the bottom of the problem.  The only possible pattern I see (seemingly confirmed by Josh Bodner's discussion at "Known Issues") is that the issue might be related to the fact that many users encountering the problem have been involved in the MEI program, suggesting that something might have gotten tangled up in the server sync account tied to their MSA early on that keeps triggering the problem.

 

I run Firefox as my primary browser on all my Windows computers, two Linux computers and two Android devices, and have for years.  In contrast to Edge, my Firefox installation uses a complicated Bookmarks nested structure and about 150-200 Bookmarks, syncing across OS platforms.  I have never -- not once -- encountered an issue with syncing on any of those devices in the years since I started syncing Firefox (so long ago I can't remember when I started).

 

I will be testing Edge on Linux if and when Microsoft gets around to releasing a Linux version for testing.  My plan has been to move over to Edge as my primary browser after the Linux version has been running stable for a while with the basics intact and operating.  I won't do that, though, until the Edge syncing problem is resolved.  I don't demand much from a browser (95% of the features in modern browsers are wasted on me), but I do demand that the basics -- security, usability, syncing and so on -- work reliably.  When it comes to something as basic as syncing, Edge isn't yet at that point.

 

Because Firefox is is almost certain to remain my primary browser for another year or two, I don't have a dog in this fight.  But my husband currently uses Edge Classic on his two computers, and (according to the trade press) is going to be moved over the Edge Chromium in an upcoming Windows Update.  I can only hope that he and others being ported over the Edge Chromium don't encounter the issue.  What a mess that would create!

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I've got issues where do i report them?
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First - I can not log onto my Bank. I cleared my cash to no avail. TD Bank asked me to try to log in using Chrome and it works fine, I also have had links in mails that didn't work. And some links in Social Media that didn't work.
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Please bring back Global Media Controls
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@cmescher (and everybody else who's been asking for it) as of this week's Dev build, the Global Media Controls flag should be back.  

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@Tom_Fox there is indeed:  https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/deployedge/microsoft-edge-policies#networkpredictionoptions.  Since the implementation is something we've inherited from Google (minus any Google-specific services that we would have replaced with our own), there is lots of Google documentation you can refer to, for example:  https://developers.google.com/web/updates/2018/07/nostate-prefetch.  There are other things controlled by this setting/policy that I don't know of any documentation for though.  

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@VincentBech given all the reports of people having trouble with clearing browsing data, our engineering team has put some work on their backlog to give this whole area a good inspection and scrubbing.  

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@Eyal_Shahar (and everybody else seeing favorites duplication) we've identified some new bugs in this area that we inherited from upstream Chromium.  Both us on the Edge side and the folks working on Chromium are actively looking into it.  

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@Glowtape we've got some other reports of people on Windows 10 version 2004 experiencing bluescreens from their Nvidia 20x0 drivers while playing video in Edge.  While we're looking into it, you might also try running Edge with the --disable-playready-hardware-drm flag, as that's helped some people, although doing so may limit the quality of video that you can view, so you'll want to remember to take that flag off once the issue gets fixed.  

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@waltnich in general, you can report issues by going to ... > Help and feedback > Send feedback.  In this case, it would be helpful to know exactly what you're seeing when you say you can't log in.  Is the page loading endlessly?  Do you get an error from the website or from Edge?  Is the page not loading at all?  If it's that last one, we know we had an issue recently where clicking links from outside applications doesn't work if Edge has an update waiting to be installed (see our known issues).  

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@basil3143 as of this week's Dev channel update, the Global Media Controls flag should be back.  

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Hello Josh. I get the problem randomly but always logging onto TD Bank. I will be using my experience with TD.

When I put in my credentials a pink box apears at the top of the credentials box that says "Something doesn't match. Please try again. You can also retrieve your user name or reset your password via the "Forgot user name and/or password?" link."

I contacted TD and they said they don't know what that is. They, from their end, tried to monitor my login but nothing is happening at their end. They offered that it is a browser issue. It started after the last build drop.     @josh_bodner 

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@waltnich are you using Edge's autofill to fill in your password?  If so, it sounds like maybe it's got the wrong password stored for some reason.  If you try to manually type in your login info, does it work?  

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No Josh. I do let the auto-fill option deploy and I have been using Last Pass forever - BUT, I have been manually inputting the TD Bank login.. I performed all of the steps you offered thru AI and your telephone tech who was certain he could fix it (but couldn't) He put in the ticket. I don't know if I am connected thru that contact or from requests I have made independently. But I've exhausted normal protocal@josh_bodner 

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@waltnich one easy way to check and see if it's a browser issue or a website issue would be to try a different browser, or at least something like InPrivate mode.  

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@josh_bodner I have a suspicion that josh bodner is AI. Waste of time pat answers.

 

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@waltnich I promise I'm not :smile: It's just very hard to tell whether website issues are due to problems with the browser, the extensions you use, the website itself, user error, some configuration of the device you're using, etc.  Asking about InPrivate, for example, was to try to rule out extension interference since extensions don't run in InPrivate by default.  Another thing I'd be very interested in is if it works in Guest windows or new profiles.  Figuring out exactly where a bug reproduces is almost as important as how to reproduce it, since that info (or trying a different browser altogether) would go a long way to ruling out if it's your specific Edge profile that's somehow gotten corrupted, which we've seen before.  

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Sorry Josh but it started to feel AI when you ask questions that were all done at the start. I think maybe somebody at MS hadtransferred me to a blog? or simular because they don't want to work on this. If so, just be honest with me. I don't accept the opportunity to use beta and then when it glitches you dump me. I thought the idea was that the glitch that hits me will hit others and MS wants to find these glitches. This is my only glitch but if you leave me with a one line "idea" every day, quite honestly, that's crap.@josh_bodner 

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@waltnich You're right, it's very possible this is something that might affect other people, which is why I'm trying to get as much information as possible about when you do and don't see it.  I just don't know who you've already talked with to know what all they tried with you.  I'd still like to know if it works in InPrivate in Edge, and if you're up for testing some more, if it works in a different profile (you can just create a new profile and then delete it when you're done).  Also, when I said other browsers, I should have been more specific and said other versions of Edge.  Since you're seeing this behavior in the Dev channel and it started recently, it would be good to download Canary and try it in there, which would be the best way to determine whether it's something wrong with the whole browser or just something that's gone wrong with your profile data, since those two possible bugs are in very different parts of the program.  

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OK, Josh. more testing. The last rep started very confident. Gave him on-line access, so I'm not sure what it was he was doing. Spent a lot of time and concluded it had to go to the mail beta group.. But we can't get anything done one post daily.
My original IE from before I downloaded the Edge Beta has upgraded to Edge and that browser opens fine. I don't think that browser is set to sync with my other systems because my new Bookmarks/Favorites setup is the old one in that browser..
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@waltnich yeah, sorry, this probably isn't the best forum for actively getting you back into a working state; that's just not what our main focus is here, so it's good that you're also working with support agents.  I don't know which support agents you've tried already, but in case you weren't aware, we've also got agents dedicated to the browser, and you can open a ticket from https://microsoftedgesupport.microsoft.com/hc/requests/new.  

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Thanks Josh, I'll give that a try.

I've got used to having different browsers open, it's not really inconvenient.@josh_bodner