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Barbloki
Oct 30, 2021Brass Contributor
Windows 11, Start button menu, make it show all apps by default
I upgraded to Windows 11 this week and I don't like the new Start button menu. I don't want "pinned" apps. I want to see All Apps in a list like before. Why don't we get the option to choose how w...
mikegjl
Oct 17, 2023Copper Contributor
I understand that frustration, I think it should be an option to all apps in the Start menu. But to be fair, Windows 10 Start also required that you click a button to see all apps.
Personally, I like the new Start menu. I mainly use a handful of apps that I keep in the taskbar. Secondary apps I keep organized in folders in the Start menu so they don't take too much space. And I find the recommended section handy to access recent documents along with the additional folders you can add next to the Power button.
However, I do occasionally wish I could access All apps more easily from the keyboard. A shortcut (kind of..) I found is to hit the Windows keyy and then the Tab key twice to navigate to the All apps button, and then hit the Space or Enter key to select All apps. So just three extra quick keystrokes.
Personally, I like the new Start menu. I mainly use a handful of apps that I keep in the taskbar. Secondary apps I keep organized in folders in the Start menu so they don't take too much space. And I find the recommended section handy to access recent documents along with the additional folders you can add next to the Power button.
However, I do occasionally wish I could access All apps more easily from the keyboard. A shortcut (kind of..) I found is to hit the Windows keyy and then the Tab key twice to navigate to the All apps button, and then hit the Space or Enter key to select All apps. So just three extra quick keystrokes.
RBA
Apr 30, 2025Copper Contributor
Please evaluate how many extra clicks & Keystrokes Win11 brought for 3B users recently:
Based on my experience: (18 extra-kestrokes + 38 extra-click )/ hour = extra 1.8 min/hour => 0.24h / workday => 48h lost / year (200 work days) x 3B users = 144 Billions hours lost / year due to Win11 Upgrade. Thanks MS !!!