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Windows 11, Start button menu, make it show all apps by default
In this case, I advise you to open start and search for feedback and open Feedback Hub app and file a suggestion and explain why you don't like these features and what is your expectation.
Reza_Ameri The problem is that this is the sort of simple feature that should be available from the start. Like not releasing the latest version of Outlook with the spell checker and copy and paste not working properly.
- True, the only recommendation I could share is what I shared earlier and is the Feedback Hub app and sharing here is could be helpful.
Reza_Ameri are you being condescending and making a consumer's response trivial, is that right?
If so, I advise you not being in a customer facing role.
- Firstly, I am volunteer here and spending some of my time to help users. I also state facts, it is true that users would feel their feedback is ignored but the fastest way to send your message to the Windows team is through the Feedback Hub app. In addition people could vote for it and share comments.
Reza_Ameri
Hahahaah!! ROFL. You think Microsoft look at feedbacks do you?!! Poor sole you are.Look at history of Microsoft over last 20 years - steadily making their software and OS's more and more unusable; they dont look at Feedback, they do things they think the customer should want. And on each itteration since XP, Windows has become prettier. But more unusable without hacks.
- That is not true, if you look into Windows Insider Blog , you will see feedback contribute on changes in Windows:
https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/
Recent example is ability to enable never combine taskbar. And this is exactly the reason why you should deal with Linux piece by piece. About 8 months ago I tested Manjaro again. Except for the partially still shi**y Nvidia drivers, codec problems in DaVinci Resolve and the one or other game that does not want to run with Wine or Proton, you have only advantages.
Proton can also output DXR ray tracing via Vulkan in the future.
Codec problems in Resolve will also soon be history.
Proton should even be able to run 97% of all Windows games according to the current status. Many of them even run better than on Windows.
Microsoft Windows:
A potent system (2000/XP) has become a bad marketing joke.
Microsoft:
- Fails at aarch64
implementation together with
Qualcomm- Does not manage to put a professionally
usable OS
- Forces you to use services that the
competition already had years before
Apple is actually a great alternative as well. The only reason I don't like Apple is that they don't even try to support universal standards. Nevertheless, the M2 Ultra rocks \m/.
"Apple is actually a great alternative as well. The only reason I don't like Apple is that they don't even try to support universal standards."
So they're not a great alternative? You'll have to buy expensive adaptors to use existing hardware? You just contradicted yourself in the next scentence.
Also, lol at "tested Manjaro again". You have no clue what you're talking about. Do you have any idea the controversies surrounding that arch wrapper? At least have the decency to site arch directly or even endeavor or something similar if you're going to go off about Linux.
- Just to chime in here, I don't like Windows 11 start menu, and prefer the classic list version. From what I can tell, that's the only real change that's been made to the new OS, so this really hasn't been a useful upgrade.
Reza_Ameri So putting feedback into the user hub fixes this how?
- It doesn't guarantee the change but it guarantees the Windows team will get to know the issue and there are several feedbacks in the Feedback Hub app and the team will proceed with the most urgent and important ones first. However, in case it receive a several votes, the Windows team might consider it.
Reza_Ameri Please help. Could you quickly provide the simplest possible instructions for how to disable the Windows 11 Start Menu, and enable the Classic Start Menu? (@Mousefluff's previous post on Oct 30 2021 shows how to do the opposite task of disabling the Classic Start Menu, and re-enabling the Windows 11 Start Menu...)
- To disable the Classic Start Menu, and re-enable the Windows 11 Start Menu, Taskbar, and Apps, run these commands in this order:
1.) Start Powershell -> Start Menu -> Run -> taskmgr -> File -> Run new Task -> %SystemRoot%\System32\WindowsPowerShell\v1.0\powershell.exe -> Select "Create this task with administrative privileges." -> Click OK.
Change the execution policy so you can run scripts locally:
2.) Set-ExecutionPolicy -ExecutionPolicy Bypass -Scope LocalMachine -Force;
Run this in Powershell to reverse the Start Menu / Taskbar changes:
3.) Set-ItemProperty -Path "HKLM:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Shell\Update\Packages" -Name "UndockingDisabled" -Value "00000000"
4.) Set-ItemProperty -Path "HKCU:\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Search" -Name "SearchboxTaskbarMode" -Value "00000001";
5.) Set-ItemProperty -Path "HKCU:\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Policies\Explorer" -Name "NoTaskGrouping" -Value "00000000";
Restart Explorer to see the taskbar changes:
6.) ./taskkill /f /im explorer.exe;
7.) ./CMD /Q /C START /REALTIME explorer.exe;
Reinstall ALL Apps first:
8.) Get-AppXPackage -AllUsers | Foreach {Add-AppxPackage -DisableDevelopmentMode -Register "$($_.InstallLocation)\AppXManifest.xml"};
Reset All Apps:
9.) Get-AppxPackage | Reset-AppxPackage;Very late to the discussion, I know.
All of the steps you've provided are the exact opposite of the request asked.
Differently stated, Barbloki is asking how to ENABLE the Classic Start Menu (a la Windows 10), as that display is preferable to the additional layer set as default on Windows 11.
Mousefluff Could you please provide the simplest possible instructions for how to disable the Windows 11 Start Menu, and enable the Classic Start Menu? - Thank you. (Your previous helpful post on Oct 30 2021 shows how to do the opposite task of disabling the Classic Start Menu, and re-enabling the Windows 11 Start Menu...)
WOW! So Microsoft really wants to make it difficult if not essentially impossible for the average Windows user to retain the perfectly logical conventional behavior of selecting from the full list of installed apps. I do really wonder where we are going when every new version of Windows becomes harder to use than the last one. It would never have occurred to me that something that could be handled with a simple configuration switch setting would require registry changes.
- Doh I need to apologise, Microsoft have already fixed this. If you click start and select the "All Apps" button you get an alphabetic list of apps. Thanks guys!
