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Mathieu Desjardins's avatar
Mathieu Desjardins
Copper Contributor
Jan 13, 2017

Multiple authentification required to open Office document from OneDrive.

Hi everyone, I need to know if everyone is having the same behavior than us when opening Office documents.

 

We are using the Surface Hub for meetings and we need to access some documents. We do not have Windows 10 available for now and some of our management team do not want to use cables to connect their computer to the Surface Hub as we are piloting them for a wireless use.

 

we have deployed the OneDrive app with the goal of having people using the OneDrive as a repository for their documents.

 

What happen is that the user presenting need to authenticate itself on the OneDrive app (email only), then I hit my ADFS and authenticate again (email and password) then, when opening a document in Word, I have to authenticate again (email only) then I hit my ADFS again (email and password).

 

Now I open a document in Excel, I have to authenticate (email only), then I hit my ADFS (email and password).

 

Then the same thing with Powerpoint.

 

Is it a normal behavior?

Is it something we can change?

Is there any planning to provide a way to enter credential once?

 

I am aware of the diffcultie to manage different users interacting with the hub at once, and I am selling that idea but I have to ask anyway to provide answers to my boss :)

 

Thank you all!

25 Replies

  • Darron Murdoch's avatar
    Darron Murdoch
    Copper Contributor

    Hi Mathieu.

    Just wanted to let you know, this isn't our experience.

    I have been doing testing with the OneDrive app on the Surface Hub too. My experience is:

    1. Log in with the 'My Meetings and files' link on the 'Start' menu

    2. Once I've logged in, if I open OneDrive, I also have to Sign-in, but I don't have to put in my password again - it just opens and shows my files.

    3. I click on an Office file and it just opens - no prompts for credentials or anything else.

     

    Kind regards,

    Darron.

  • Daniel Sjögren's avatar
    Daniel Sjögren
    Copper Contributor

    We have the same issue on all our Hubs. The hubs are domain joined.

     

    When the hub is connected to an external network it reaches our external ADFS and using Forms authentication and everything works perfectly (Other issues though like wireless projection and admin login...).

    When the hub is connected to our internal network it reaches or internal ADFS and is trying to use Windows authentication, that's why an additional login is shown according to me.

    It would be great to be able to exclude those in the ADFS somehow to force them to use Forms.

     

    /Daniel

  • Jeff Whealen's avatar
    Jeff Whealen
    Copper Contributor

    I still have this issue and cannot open office docs that are on my OneDrive. I can see them and try to open but then I get an error message saying "Can't open due to insufficient rights. "

  • Just to close that point, the new feature from the Creator Update allow to connect using an account upfront, when opening the meeting so you won't have to connect each time for each file.
    • David Phillips's avatar
      David Phillips
      Iron Contributor

      I can confirm that this works really well.  There's still one or two extra clicks involved with OneDrive, but the other apps (even the MS Portal) all use the SSO.  Huge improvement.  Yuge!

      • Anonymous's avatar
        Anonymous

        Glad to hear it is working for you. Are your accounts on Office 365 and using federated login with ADFS? Ours are and I'm trying to figure out if that is some edge case blocker keeping it from working on ours or if the in place upgrade to 1703 got borked somehow and I should just block time to do a hard reset and setup again on it.

    • Anonymous's avatar
      Anonymous

      While the Creators update claims to solve with with single sign on, we are actually finding that it has broken all document access on our updated device.

       

      The inital sign in will work and show files but if you open one, the office app will prompt for sign in again and then fail to open the file as it appears to get signed out of the app (we see the recent files list show files then they all disapear).

       

      The onedrive app can sign in and browse files but opening them online fails and the office apps again give an permissions type error. The only work around we have found so far is to download a copy of the file locally and then open it from the Hub local drive.

       

      We are in the same O365/ADFS federated login config as the first poster.

      • Kai Hübner's avatar
        Kai Hübner
        Copper Contributor

        @Miles VLSC Holt wrote:

        While the Creators update claims to solve with with single sign on, we are actually finding that it has broken all document access on our updated device.

         

        The inital sign in will work and show files but if you open one, the office app will prompt for sign in again and then fail to open the file as it appears to get signed out of the app (we see the recent files list show files then they all disapear).

         

        The onedrive app can sign in and browse files but opening them online fails and the office apps again give an permissions type error. The only work around we have found so far is to download a copy of the file locally and then open it from the Hub local drive.

         

        We are in the same O365/ADFS federated login config as the first poster.


        Same problem here. Initial Login is working, but we have to login in every single app again. :-(

  • Lars Berlau's avatar
    Lars Berlau
    Copper Contributor

    Same behavior here.

    I have heard that it would be fixed in an update march/april.

    so you only need to sign in one time.

     

    /Lars Berlau

    • Jón Þorvaldsson's avatar
      Jón Þorvaldsson
      Copper Contributor

      Thank you for that update.

      Can anyone from MS confirm that?

      The MS staff seems awefully quiet in this community?

  • I'm experiencing the same thing.  I start my sessions by opening the OneDrive app, authenticate with email+password, find the document I want to work with and when I click the document, the application (e.g. Word or Excel) opens the attached pop-up and asks for email address, again... and when I open another file in a different application I get prompted again... Which of course is mindnumbingly tedious.

     

    So the workaround I use is to simply click the cancel button on this pop-up.  Then the application opens but the document doesn't.  Then I hop back into the OneDrive app and click the same document again and now it opens.  After that the OneDrive connection seems to work smoothly...

     

    But how I wish I could get rid of that annoying pop-up...  

  • david williams's avatar
    david williams
    Copper Contributor
    Hi Mathieu, we are also experiencing this behaviour in the same scenario as yours, have you had any feedback from MS?
    • Mathieu Desjardins's avatar
      Mathieu Desjardins
      Copper Contributor

      Other than here I do not have posted anywhere alse but no, no news from someone from MS.

       

      If there is something coing I would like to answer and if others have some idea to help them well, keep posting here :)

  • Mike Holden's avatar
    Mike Holden
    Copper Contributor

    I can confirm I'm seeing the same behaviour. Early adopter here with 9 hubs on site.

  • Can you clarify - is the experience you're having when opening files on the Surface Hub itself, or on local computers?
    • Mathieu Desjardins's avatar
      Mathieu Desjardins
      Copper Contributor

      That behavior is only on the Surface Hub. The same thing on a computer will be that at some point I'll hit the ADFS but only once.

       

      In the attached document, you have all the step required to open a word and a powerpoint document using the same credentials at each logon request and from a freshly restard Surface Hub.

       

      The other part is on a computer, the requirement to open the same document form a coputer which I am already logon (from this morning) with my credentials.

       

      In fact, I am only asked once for my credentials on the computer and this is to authenticate myself on the web page for Onedrive. Wich probably never happened if I wasn't logged on my personnal OneDrive.

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