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Clone Surface Hub SSDs?
Hi Dan,
Your answer reflects my feelings - I think BitLocker will block this method.
Do you know of any faster method of going from 1511 to the newest release? Some method with the newest release on a USB stick and a side load or similar? My expereinces so far are that relying on Windows Update can take a day or more per hub.
Sadly no, there's only 2 methods: WU via the internet, or WSUS.
However, I think WSUS support for feature updates was only introduced from 1607, so regardless you're going to have to do the first feature update to get off of 1511 over the internet.
Also, the W10 Team images are not publicly available and, even if you managed to get an image, you wouldn't be able to side-load.
Internet speed will definitely be a factor. One of our 10Mb sites took almost 7 hours to update from 1511. Our 10Gb sites take 60-90 minutes. Alot of the time is spent preparing the update. MS have made huge improvements behind the scenes for feature updates, and they're ALOT faster these days, but if you start on 1511, it's going to take a while.
I think your best bet is to prepare as best as possible for the updates. When I had 20+ to do, I booked a large room for them all, left them in the boxes, unwrapped them, plugged them all in to multiple power adapters and switches, and did them all in one go overnight. Took a bit of organising, but was easier than doing them one at a time, or waiting for them to be installed then updating/configuring.
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Hi Daniel,
Thanks for your answer, which confirms my fears. Unfortunately your method won't work for me as the Surface Hubs will be drop-shipped from Germany to many sites around Europe. Sounds like an extra night or two in hotels!
My thinking is that BitLocker is expressly designed to prevent what my guys are planning, i.e. cloning a disk and having it accessable on another PC. I believe the BitLocker key involves the onboard TPM chip and any clone will not work, even if the BitLocker key is input.
Do you know enough about BitLocker to confirm my theory?Richard
- Hi Richard
Ah what a shame (though likely a good choice if they're all over the country!).
You are spot on in regards to BitLocker. The drives are encrypted and locked, with the unlock key residing on the TPM chip inside the computer. The whole point is to prevent access to the data if the drive is removed from the computer.
Even if this was successful, the computer/Surface Hub will still request the unlock key every time it boots as it will be different to the one stored in the TPM chip. The only way to stop the computer asking for the BitLocker key every time you reboot is to unlock the drive, remove BitLocker encryption, then re-lock. None of this is possible on Surface Hub.
Not only that, I'm fairly sure Secure Boot will throw a head-fit and just stop the boot process the moment it realises the SSD in the Surface Hub does not match the SSD it's expecting due to the drive being cloned.
Long story short, you're probably going to be spending many nights in hotels. I'd advise spending a good few nights on TripAdvisor finding some nice spots to eat and do some sight-seeing! :)
Dan
Ryan WoldMicrosoft
Hi Richard,
Can you open a Surface Hub support case and ask for me specifically? I'd like to discuss this with you. :-)