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Geir-Magnus Pettersen's avatar
Jun 29, 2018

Scoping of search in team site / communication sites

Hi!

 

I am working on the modern search experience in sharepoint. One of the things that we have had some feedback on is the scoping of search when searching from a team site or a communication site. I would like to ask you what you think of the current experience and if / how you would like to have it.

 

The idea is that when you do a search from the site we will surface the search results scoped to the site you have search from. You can then choose to upscope the search to all Sharepoint results by clicking the Sharepoint link in the search breadcrumb in the following picture.

 

 

What do you think about this feature?

23 Replies

  • Frankelnikov's avatar
    Frankelnikov
    Copper Contributor

    Is there already a solution to change "Search In Site" in to a global SharePoint search??

    • Geir-Magnus Pettersen's avatar
      Geir-Magnus Pettersen
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      Hi!

       

      There currently are no way to customize if you want to search in the scope of the site or the tenant wide scope. But we are considering setting default search scope to tenant wide instead of site scoped as the default behavior.

      • Geir-Magnus Pettersen's avatar
        Geir-Magnus Pettersen
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        Hi!
        There currently are no way to customize if you want to search in the scope of the site or the tenant wide scope. But we are considering setting default search scope to tenant wide instead of site scoped as the default behavior.
  • Hi - my feedback - still need an ability to place custom scopes here - they can be links to the 'classic' search experience.  Alot of the clients where I've helped on search have used this on the classic method to provide custom pages into specific areas of their businesses - eg 'projects', 'compliance', 'intranet' vs 'everything'.

     

    I dont mind if you place the 'SharePoint' word as a default - but I'd like to have the option to change it to something more relevant to the Client I'm working with. In terms of the big picture on search - there needs to still be the ability to provide custom results pages - the office graph can be clever, but in some situations we dont need clever we just need 'the same for all users, but refined by security' on search scopes.

    Hope that helps!

    • Geir-Magnus Pettersen's avatar
      Geir-Magnus Pettersen
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      Richard Burdes We are also working on sorting out customization for the modern searchbox and search results page. We still have some work left on this.

       

      Thanks for the tip on making the breadcrumb customization, we have also been thinking about adding custom verticals like the current all, sites, files and people.

      • Brendon Cornwell's avatar
        Brendon Cornwell
        Copper Contributor

        Geir-Magnus Pettersen When do you anticipate releasing the new search functionality? Will you be releasing the ability to do metadata search refiners?

         

        It would be great if you could change the up-scope search language to something other than "SharePoint".  We conducted several rounds of usability testing on our Intranet currently in development and this caused a lot of confusion. 

  • Dean_Gross's avatar
    Dean_Gross
    Silver Contributor

    This is a great addition and will be helpful, however its implementation needs some more work.

    I agree with the others that this is not intuitive, there are no visual cues or indicators that help the user discover this functionality. Replacing the word "sharepoint" with "search all sites" or something similar would make it obvious.

    • Frank-Ove Kristiansen's avatar
      Frank-Ove Kristiansen
      Brass Contributor

      I agree that the label "SharePoint" could be more intuitive and self-explanatory. .

      In addition, I would very much like to have an additional scope available: The Hub.
      As I have posted here, https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/SharePoint/Search-across-sites-from-associated-hub-sites/td-p/213316, I would very much like to have the "Search across sites" search option be enabled or at least available on all associated sites as well, and not only on the hub site.
      This could be an option on the Site Information page for the associated sites, or on Site Settings -> Search Settings, or similar. Maybe allow from the following alternatives:
      - Global
      - Site Collection
      - Hub (only available if site associated to a hub)
      - This Site only
      This could be the default search behavior when the user starts typing, and hits Enter. When entering the Search Result page, the same alternatives could be made available to the user.

      Hope this helps. :)
      Kind Regards,
      Frank

      • Geir-Magnus Pettersen's avatar
        Geir-Magnus Pettersen
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        Hi!

        If you do a search directly from an associated site, the breadcrumb should show three parts. Sharepoint -> Hub site -> associated site. This is an example:

        If this is not seen when searching from an associated site, its a bug. If so, please post me a private message or create a support ticket and we will investigate this issue.

  • I think the default experience is correct, but agree that clicking SharePoint to search everything is not intuitive. I have had multiple users at two different clients ask me about how to search everything. There needs to be something more explicit!
    • Anonymous's avatar
      Anonymous

      Why not something similar to amazon. For ex when you look for watches it takes you to Clothing, Shoes & Jewelry section and you can change the search scope to all departments within the searchbox itself. I think some thing similar for sitecollection and sharepoint search would be helpful. User can upscope to  All SharePoint to get results from entire sharepoint from site specific search

       

      • Anonymous's avatar
        Anonymous
        Yeah that would be nice for scope instead of just type. However also something to keep in mind. Whatever you guys decide. Do a few different methods and give your people choice in the SharePoint admin center ;). That way you can reach and make more people happy having more than one way instead of trying on an exact way that you think works best for all. You don’t have to go crazy with options but a handful is always nice!

  • Anonymous's avatar
    Anonymous
    I like the current scope how it works, however, I would change the UI a bit so that users know, hey "Click here to search all of SharePoint" or something like that. Most technical people know you can click that for scope, but "Users" probably won't understand.

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