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P4W: One Board is not enough. We need Multiple Boards and different Task types
- Jan 02, 2023
Hey YayYay ,
Great suggestions / observations. Yes Project for the web is the latest PPM tool from Microsoft and should be the solution you look to use if you are using Microsoft for Project / Tasks Management. For the product suggestions, best to post / vote here: https://feedbackportal.microsoft.com/feedback/forum/40792262-301c-ec11-b6e7-0022481f8472
Paul
1. Deliverables - What are we building? 90% of the time I'll create an "Initial" or "Draft" deliverable or a specific name to break up my deliverable to make Progress (%) earlier and identify problems earlier
*Note: Deliverables in the schedules should NOT be tasks lists or punch lists that can be done interchangeably
2. Deliverable Dependencies - If I can't identify dependencies between deliverables due to how the work is done or how the Resources are tied to them, then I'll rethink what they are or if I'm too granular
3 - Resource Modeling - Going along with 2, its important to identify the deliverables in a way that we can model the work of the resources. If you don't resource load your schedules, you're not able to answer the questions of: "Can we do this?", "Is it achievable?"
To answer your overall dilemma, I highly recommend using Microsoft Project Online for your Deliverables, Issues/Risks, Variances. If you have a schedule already, it will import directly into Project Online. And the huge win is that you can surface it in Microsoft Teams to your Team Members to push updates to you versus the traditional, go get progress updates from them.
Then the BIG key and gamechanger is that your schedule uses the foundations of 1-3 above, which is agnostic to phases, methodologies, processes AND the lower level details, punch lists, task lists can be maintained anywhere in ANY app. Using Project Online/Power BI and surfacing within MS Teams gives your Team Members, One-Stop-Shop for the schedule and You and leadership have full visibility of ALL projects, departments and work type.
- YayYayJan 02, 2023Copper Contributor
Hi TonyProctor , thank you for the extended reply. While I agree to your explanation about project theories, I'm totally confused about your recommendation for "project online".
I would say, that I'm very experienced project online, but I was expecting that P4W is the new world. Thats what many Microsoft pages say: a "Transition from Project Online to P4W" is recommended (e.g. "Project for the web and Project Online" in support.microft.com). Also our Microsoft Partners said this.
Besides - I can't see how my inital problem will be solved with Project Online, as it does not support multiple boards or different task types also. There are other solutions in the market that do.
- TonyProctorJan 02, 2023Brass ContributorCan you clarify about whether or not you have or had Project Online? If you did, were you using the Tasks Update or Timesheet features? If not, I would have your MS Partner demo the use and benefits of using it those features to solve your dilemma.
- YayYayJan 02, 2023Copper ContributorWe have Project Online and we're using it long time now. It's an outdated product based on sharepoint classic and will be replaced with Project for the Web. Why should I consider to invest time and money to build a solution with it, when its oficially discontinued?