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Can Project Plan 1 Online Truly Replace Project Plan 3 Using Desktop Project and mpp files
We currently have a large number of Project Plan 3 licenses with users creating their projects Project Pro and saving their mpp files in SharePoint/Team. Obviously we have no way of centralizing any...
luvsql --
What you call Project Plan 1 is actually named Project for the Web. I want to warn you that Project for the Web is currently missing about 95% of the functionality found in the Microsoft Project desktop application. For example, the only dependency type available is Finish-to-Start, and you cannot apply constraints or Deadline dates in Project for the Web. There is no concept of master projects, which means you cannot set dependencies between projects. In Project for the Web, you can only assign resources to work full-time (Units value of 100% in Microsoft Project desktop) and you cannot assign people to work part-time. In Project for the Web, you cannot create Material, Cost, or Generic resources.
Now, if the items I have mentioned are NOT needed or used in your existing Microsoft Project schedules, you could probably switch to Project for the Web. Before you make the switch, I would recommend that several of your PMs try importing their existing Microsoft Project schedules into Project for the Web, and then work with the tool to see if it meets your needs. If it meets your needs, good for you. If not, do not switch yet. Keep in mind that Microsoft is continually developing Project for the Web, which probably means that the features I mentioned will be added to the tool somewhere down the road in the future. Hope this helps.
What you call Project Plan 1 is actually named Project for the Web. I want to warn you that Project for the Web is currently missing about 95% of the functionality found in the Microsoft Project desktop application. For example, the only dependency type available is Finish-to-Start, and you cannot apply constraints or Deadline dates in Project for the Web. There is no concept of master projects, which means you cannot set dependencies between projects. In Project for the Web, you can only assign resources to work full-time (Units value of 100% in Microsoft Project desktop) and you cannot assign people to work part-time. In Project for the Web, you cannot create Material, Cost, or Generic resources.
Now, if the items I have mentioned are NOT needed or used in your existing Microsoft Project schedules, you could probably switch to Project for the Web. Before you make the switch, I would recommend that several of your PMs try importing their existing Microsoft Project schedules into Project for the Web, and then work with the tool to see if it meets your needs. If it meets your needs, good for you. If not, do not switch yet. Keep in mind that Microsoft is continually developing Project for the Web, which probably means that the features I mentioned will be added to the tool somewhere down the road in the future. Hope this helps.
Dale_HowardMVP So if we need some of those features, we're stuck with NO cloud solution for Projects? That seems kind of insane for 2023?
- luvsql --
Project Online is a cloud-based solution which you would use with Microsoft Project to plan and manage your projects. The beauty of Project Online is that it gives you full reporting capabilities in Power BI about the status of all your projects and all of the resources being used in your projects. It offers two different methods for team members to report their task status each week. You can set up the system to offer simple reporting (such as % Work Complete) using the Tasks page, or daily reporting of work hours using the Timesheet page. It is a very powerful PPM tool, which at this point, simply cannot be replaced with Project for the Web.
Also, your Project Plan 3 licenses set you up to use Project Online. However, someone in your organization would need to create a Project Online instance for you to use, and someone would need to configure it to match your project management processes. Once Project Online has been set up, you would be able to save your existing projects in the Project Online database in the cloud.
Hope this helps.- So what is "Project for the Web" and "Project Online?" I'm now very confused.
- luvsql --
We can all thank Microsoft Marketing for creating the confusion. Project for the Web is a simple, web-based project management tool that is intended for small and simple projects. Microsoft was originally targeting this tool for people who are occasional project managers and who have little or no formal training on project management concepts.
Project Online is a cloud-based tool that stores all of its data in an Azure database in the Microsoft cloud. Project managers must connect their copies of Microsoft Project to the Project Online system, and then can begin planning and managing their projects in Microsoft Project and saving them in the cloud. In Project Online, all resources are stored in a centralized Enterprise Resource Pool. Project managers can add team members to their projects from the Enterprise Resource Pool and then assign their team members to tasks in the project.
Project Online also offers a web-based user interface known as Project Web App (PWA). PWA offers a Projects page that lists important information about every project. PWA includes a Resources page, which lists every enterprise resource, plus it provides resource utilization and availability information as well. PWA also includes the Tasks page and the Timesheet page which team members can use to submit their task progress on a regular basis. PWA includes an Approval Center page, which is the page that PMs use to approve the submitted task progress by their team members and to automatically update their projects that those task updates.
Beyond all of this, Project Online also creates a Project Site in SharePoint for each new project added to the system. In the Project Site, users can manage Risks, Issues, and documents associated with the project, and manage several other items as well.
The beauty of Project Online is that it can be configured and molded to match how your organization manages projects and people. Microsoft has stated that Project for the Web is going to replace Project Online, but in its current state, Project for the Weg cannot even come close to what Project Online offers.
I would encourage you to give Project for the Web a try to see if it works for you. If it does not, you might want to explore Project Online as well. Your other option would be to keep using the Microsoft Project desktop tool until Project for the Web offers you what you want. Hope this helps.