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Miike
Apr 18, 2023Brass Contributor
Secure Registration and TAP with a password-less CA baseline
Hi All, I've been looking further at password-less in an Azure AD tenant and if it can be set as a baseline CA requirement for access to tenant resources. Access via CA policies appears to work ...
- May 02, 2023If you enforce Passwordless (authentication strength) as you've noticed you might need to add TAP as an additional method in that policy. Let's consider the scenario: existing user, new phone.
It's a bit clunky today since you will need TAP for getting the user into Security Info first (to register method), and then provide TAP yet again when you "Enable Phone-Sign in" in the new mobile. You could use the same TAP there if you set it to not require one-time use and then scope it to 1 hour for example. I have an example authenticator scenario you can compare with: https://simonhakansson.com/passwordless-authenticator-configuration-ddb0fa70d32f
Keep in mind that TAP is considered stronger than the other available MFA methods (https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/active-directory/authentication/concept-system-preferred-multifactor-authentication#how-does-system-preferred-mfa-determine-the-most-secure-method) , so it should be handled with care.
I expect the Passwordless registration-flow to become a bit more user friendly in the future, ideally you would want "Enable Phone-sign in" to be automatic in some way, at least for MDM-enrolled phones in my opinion.
0fflinedocs
May 02, 2023Brass Contributor
If you enforce Passwordless (authentication strength) as you've noticed you might need to add TAP as an additional method in that policy. Let's consider the scenario: existing user, new phone.
It's a bit clunky today since you will need TAP for getting the user into Security Info first (to register method), and then provide TAP yet again when you "Enable Phone-Sign in" in the new mobile. You could use the same TAP there if you set it to not require one-time use and then scope it to 1 hour for example. I have an example authenticator scenario you can compare with: https://simonhakansson.com/passwordless-authenticator-configuration-ddb0fa70d32f
Keep in mind that TAP is considered stronger than the other available MFA methods (https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/active-directory/authentication/concept-system-preferred-multifactor-authentication#how-does-system-preferred-mfa-determine-the-most-secure-method) , so it should be handled with care.
I expect the Passwordless registration-flow to become a bit more user friendly in the future, ideally you would want "Enable Phone-sign in" to be automatic in some way, at least for MDM-enrolled phones in my opinion.
It's a bit clunky today since you will need TAP for getting the user into Security Info first (to register method), and then provide TAP yet again when you "Enable Phone-Sign in" in the new mobile. You could use the same TAP there if you set it to not require one-time use and then scope it to 1 hour for example. I have an example authenticator scenario you can compare with: https://simonhakansson.com/passwordless-authenticator-configuration-ddb0fa70d32f
Keep in mind that TAP is considered stronger than the other available MFA methods (https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/active-directory/authentication/concept-system-preferred-multifactor-authentication#how-does-system-preferred-mfa-determine-the-most-secure-method) , so it should be handled with care.
I expect the Passwordless registration-flow to become a bit more user friendly in the future, ideally you would want "Enable Phone-sign in" to be automatic in some way, at least for MDM-enrolled phones in my opinion.
- Miike445May 03, 2023Copper ContributorThis worked perfectly, I think the main difference I had was pushing the TAP as OTP rather than multi-use, makes sense looking back at the issue now.
I agree, when we can enforce passwordless enrollment through guided prompts or have it enabled as default to managed devices it will be a lot easier, hopefully one day soon!- 0fflinedocsMay 05, 2023Brass ContributorGreat, yes it makes sense then but it's not intuitive at all as of now. Hopefully that will be a bit more user friendly going forward.
- Miike445May 02, 2023Copper Contributor
0fflinedocs Thanks appreciate your insight too!
I'll test out your process today, see if I can address the challenge.