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Stable Version
Good, I have installed the Stable Version that is hanging around the internet, does this work 100% and will it update automatically?
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Yeah it's best to stick with the insider channels that are Canary, Dev, Beta. When it goes stable or live stable, it goes stables. I get more out of Canary than any of the versions because of it's frequent updating and starting point of test features so for now I'm using Canary.
I purposely took one of my old laptops (not used anymore almost not usable due to age) and downloaded it, installed it, than deleted it to test it from WalkingCat's site. When deleting it informed me I was deleting an insider version (with the questionnaire of why I'm deleting it) which seem to be an old version of Edge Dev. So it's just a bootleg (hack) of Dev version made to look like a stable version. The uninstaller was the giveaway.
It reminds me back in late 1997/early 98 when warez pirates on IRC were taking Windows 95 and somehow modifying the name a bit to Windows 98 claiming it was a "leaked pre-stable release of Windows 98" when it was nothing more tha a hack up of Windows 95 made to look like a leaked version of Win 98 even though Windows 98 was closed source. It happens a lot and like others said I would stay clear of it and only download Edge Canary, Dev, and/or Beta.
Tor is infamous for doing this with Firefox (Mozilla' being fine with it) as they simply took Firefox ESP and replaced the name Firefox with the the Tor name over it and declared it "The Tor Browser" when it's nothing more than Firefox ESP. Most people using Tor don't know they're using Firefox ESP lol.Anthony "Tor is infamous for doing this with Firefox (Mozilla' being fine with it) as they simply took Firefox ESP and replaced the name Firefox with the the Tor name over it and declared it "The Tor Browser" when it's nothing more than Firefox ESP. Most people using Tor don't know they're using Firefox ESP lol."
I don't use Tor or have any interest in the Tor browser, but I think something needs to be said: The Tor browser is an independent browser based on Mozilla's https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/. It is not Firefox ESR with the name changed and that alone.
The Tor Project takes Firefox ESR code and changes/adds patches to the base code to (a) enhance anonymity, (b) enhance privacy and security in a number of ways, (c) in most recent iterations, embed various Tor extensions directly into the modified browser. The Tor browser also changes a number of Firefox preferences from the default configuration. The details are readily available in Tor Project documentation about the browser if you are interested in the details.
What Tor is doing (developing a specialized branch/fork of existing open source code to meet specific needs) is common in the world of open source software (the branching and forking from Star Office to OpenOffice.org, then to Apache OpenOffice and LibreOffice is a good example), and (in general, with limitations) freely permitted under https://www.toptal.com/open-source/developers-guide-to-open-source-licenses so long as the branched/forked code remains open source rather than proprietary.
The Tor browser branch/fork of Firefox ESR is not at all similar to the situations you describe.
- tomscharbach - I had Tor Browswer for a short time. The Onion Network is unstable at best. It's basically a world of overdramatization (on youtube), piracy and teens seeing too many 90's hacking movies and thinking they're in the Matrix or something. When I would check out any chat forums or chat rooms they were mostly filled with pervs and pedos. Why I dropped it, I found it pointless to use.
Anyhow When I went to the "about" part of the browswer it would refernece it back to Firefox ESR. Not on the desktop browswer (anymore...I think) but on the app it still does. Yes, it does add it's own "codec" and all that stuff built on top of Firefox ESR that suppose to make the user more secure and "hidden" but it's not as as secure as people think. The FBI used a security issue/bug in FireFox ESP that was being used by Tor and nailed a lot of illegal activity. Firefox went through the roof with that. Most users htink Tor is it's own source engine browswer not knowing it's sourced off Firefox/Gecko.
Anyhow...I download Tor for Andorid browswer an hour ago to see, and if I put in about:firefox it comes up with the about page of "Firefox ESR 60.0.8".
Here's that link about the FBI bust and Mozilla reaction to it: https://thehackernews.com/2016/05/fbi-tor-firefox.html?m=1
They still do. one of the most popular one is called Wzor (.net). that guy has a Twitter account too and publishes his own homebrew version of Microsoft products. I don't know how some people can trust those distros..they can easily embed a backdoor.
I think Tor is infamous because of the darkweb stuff, otherwise it's something like VPNs, but more secure. Tor has its own browser though for Android (last time i checked it was still in Beta phase).
You're probably gonna need the Canary version if you're looking for stability and things to work.
even Beta that is officially released is literally a broken browser with bugs and missing features.
experience shows that the Edge insider channel that is updated most regularly is the most stable one.Baezs
Hi & welcome,
I don't want people being confused. So, I have a request & a question...
Please, be explicit in telling what you mean by "hanging around on the internet".
Where are you (& or others) seeing this so-called "Stable Version"? Where is this term showing? I have been beta testing for MS for many years, Operating Systems & other products and have not, until now, here, seen this term applied. Who or where is using this phrase, especially, at this point in time in regard to Edge Chromium when we are a long way from DONE?
Cheers,
DrewDrew1903 "Where are you (& or others) seeing this so-called "Stable Version"? Where is this term showing?"
The so-called "Stable" release is a leaked, bootleg version that has received relatively widespread discussion. Do a internet search for "Edge Chromium Stable" and you'll https://www.windowscentral.com/stable-build-chromium-based-microsoft-edge-leaks-online.
"I have been beta testing for MS for many years, Operating Systems & other products and have not, until now, here, seen this term applied. Who or where is using this phrase, especially, at this point in time in regard to Edge Chromium when we are a long way from DONE?"
"Canary", "Dev", "Beta" and "Stable" are terms Microsoft adopted from the Chromium Project, which uses those terms to describe build levels. Microsoft has not used that terminology in the past (for example, Windows Insider builds are code-named -- 20H1 -- and build-named, but branched only in the sense that Microsoft releases different builds to various "rings" -- "Skip Ahead", "Fast", "Slow"), so it is not surprising that if your experience with testing software is has been confined to Microsoft products, you have not run across the term "Stable".
In the Open Source (e.g. FOSS) development world, "Stable" is a term used to define builds that are released to the general public for use (not testing) and are supported.
Obviously, that is not the case here -- the so-called "Stable" version has not been released by Microsoft and is not supported. The so-called "Stable" version of Edge Chromium is a leaked build, almost certainly of a version that was put on Microsoft servers in order to test delivery/upgrade mechanisms in-house. According to what I've read about it, the "Stable" version of Edge Chromium "replaces" Edge Classic, no doubt in the same way as the "Edge Replaces Edge" unintended release and boondoggle did.
Two things to note:
(1) Anyone who is installs the so-called "Stable" version is doing so at their own risk. I won't go so far as to call such people "fools", but I'm tempted because installing bootleg, unsupported software defines "foolish".
(2) If Microsoft follows Chromium Project conventions, there will always be a "Stable" version, but that version will change over time (see description of how FOSS development uses the term, above) as new builds are promoted to "Stable" (that is, released and supported) status. "Stable", in terms of version, is (like "Canary", "Dev" and "Beta") a relative term.
Welcome to the world of open-source software, Drew.
- Unlike the previously leaked beta versions, this time the stable leaks come straight from Microsoft servers, so they are safe.
more information:
https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/Discussions/Is-the-new-tab-page-randomly-popping-out-the-known-issue/td-p/821797
The stable version hasn't been released yet. At least not the official version. The "Beta" channel just opened up a few days ago which is considered the most "stable" of the three insider (beta browsers) channels.
